Performance tyre discussion

[Musiclover08]

A4 B7 2.0T. 162kW, sport suspension/lowered.

Yes they are. Perhaps I should stick to 235 for the front and 245 at the rear? After the 225s from the rear, which I'll put on the front, are done.



Nice to have your input after owning various premium tyres. I do want the Michelins, one can't put a price on safety and I'm on the road quite a bit.

My only concern is that I do enjoy torque most of the time the opportunity is given, so there will be more than usual wear in the front. Is it worth paying for Michelins if I'm going to be replacing more often than usual? Or should I rather go for the Falkens, which are well rated and half the price?

I'd go with the Michelins in all honesty. Conti's are also a good brand to look at as well. Wear wise will depend on how you drive and how often you rotate tyres, so if that is done on a regular basis I think you will get good mileage out of the tyres. I rotate every 5000km

 

[Masataka]

A4 B7 2.0T. 162kW, sport suspension/lowered.

Yes they are. Perhaps I should stick to 235 for the front and 245 at the rear? After the 225s from the rear, which I'll put on the front, are done.

Why not stick with 235 all round since the car is FWD? On my car (RWD) I run 235 all round - it's cheaper that way and the car actually handles better because of the slightly smaller tread coverage at the rear.

Nice to have your input after owning various premium tyres. I do want the Michelins, one can't put a price on safety and I'm on the road quite a bit.

My only concern is that I do enjoy torque most of the time the opportunity is given, so there will be more than usual wear in the front. Is it worth paying for Michelins if I'm going to be replacing more often than usual? Or should I rather go for the Falkens, which are well rated and half the price?

I'm running over 500nm through those PS3's, and even after a year, they still have plenty life left

 

[sand_man]

Current fronts needing replacing have already worn down to the tread indicators in some places, so they won't be good/legal (insurance) for the back.

No, I meant replace current fronts. Throw current fronts in the dustbin. When current rears are nearing shelf life move the fronts to the rear and put on a new pair of fronts.

 

[sand_man]

And do yourself a favour and read up on the Proxes T1 Toyo's. Not only are they very highly rated but they a lot cheaper than the equivalent big brand tires.

I just put 4 on my A6, 225/50/17, R6090 all inclusive. Grip is phenomenal.

 

[calypso]

Michelin PSS, in my opinion, best sports tire on the market. They actually last really well too.

 

[PostmanPot]

Thanks. Also looking at Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalines.

Probably do 235 all round so they can be easily rotated.

 

[Drifter]

Hankooks all the way

 

[Nuke]

Only used Michelin PS2/PS3 and I'm happy with them.

 

[Charlie600]

My G7 GTI came with Bridgestone Potenza S001's, wasn't too happy with them due to regularly struggling for grip etc.
Replaced them with 4x Michelin PS3's after 20 000km and it was the best decision ever - Bridgestones are okay'ish but the Michelins are simply light years ahead (from my perspective at least).

Ps: you've spent a couple of 100 grand on your vehicle, skip the cheap and nasty and put premium rubber on the 4 corners of the car, I fail to understand how people purchase sports cars and or luxury saloons yet try and skimp on the equipment in order to "save" a couple hundred of bucks...

 

[PostmanPot]

Ps: you've spent a couple of 100 grand on your vehicle, skip the cheap and nasty and put premium rubber on the 4 corners of the car, I fail to understand how people purchase sports cars and or luxury saloons yet try and skimp on the equipment in order to "save" a couple hundred of bucks...

In my case it's more about if it's worth it if they'll be replaced more regularly due to driving style. And about if I really need them.

The context is that my car had cheap entry level tyres put on the front by the seller when I bought it. I'm only interested in Falken (mid range), Bridgestone and Michelin (both premium) at the moment, based on researching the review site that's been mentioned.

Any of these will be a massive upgrade to what I have now. I can always try Michelins next time. I can buy two new Michelins in a few months, then I'd have tested both on the front.

The models I'm interested in have similar ratings to the Michelins, so they're by no means crap tyres, assuming the reviews and ratings are all legit.

 

[tRoN]

Pirelli Pzero. Like superglue on the road

 

[PostmanPot]

Pirelli Pzero. Like superglue on the road

Can you link the model on Tyre Review?

 

[tRoN]

Can you link the model on Tyre Review?

Nah. Just personal experience.

 

[PostmanPot]

Nah. Just personal experience.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/P-Zero.htm

The review scores are a fair bit lower than Michelin and others. It's not the be-all and end-all, just not too inspiring.

 

[StrontiumDog]

I'm supposed to be getting the Falken ZE912's on my A3 (225 45 R172's) on Monday. Changing all 4 at R950 each at Palm Tyres in Maitland.

But now you have me wondering at what price the 914's might be (if available)...

 

[StrontiumDog]

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Pirelli/P-Zero.htm

The review scores are a fair bit lower than Michelin and others. It's not the be-all and end-all, just not too inspiring.

I have these currently in the rear and came with the car when I got it at 3 months old so I assume factory fitted. Tread is almost at the indicator level, manufacturing date puts them at five years old so I might as well change them too. R1200 at Palm Tyres.

 

[Paul_S]

And do yourself a favour and read up on the Proxes T1 Toyo's. Not only are they very highly rated but they a lot cheaper than the equivalent big brand tires.

I just put 4 on my A6, 225/50/17, R6090 all inclusive. Grip is phenomenal.

I can second that.
I put a set of Toyo Proxes T1 Sports on my Cerato (215/50 R17) and they grip very well including in the wet.
I have 52000km on them now and I recon they'll last another 20000km.
About half the price of Conti's, Michellins, Hankooks, etc.

 

[Charlie600]

In my case it's more about if it's worth it if they'll be replaced more regularly due to driving style. And about if I really need them.

The context is that my car had cheap entry level tyres put on the front by the seller when I bought it. I'm only interested in Falken (mid range), Bridgestone and Michelin (both premium) at the moment, based on researching the review site that's been mentioned.

Any of these will be a massive upgrade to what I have now. I can always try Michelins next time. I can buy two new Michelins in a few months, then I'd have tested both on the front.

The models I'm interested in have similar ratings to the Michelins, so they're by no means crap tyres, assuming the reviews and ratings are all legit.

It was more of a broad sweeping statement from my end in general (given the number of 650i's etc. on the road with no name tyres) but I fully agree with you bud.

My rationale is always that the manufacturers would've fitted Achilles/Toyo/Sava etc. if they were superior to the other brands such as Michelin, Pirelli, Bridgestone etc, irrespective of cost.

The capabilities of most of the modern sports cars and powerful luxury saloons nearly always exceed their driver's capabilities, my preference is as such to rather rather have "stickier" tyres even if it means less km's on the set of tyres but the subconscious peace of mind knowing that my chances is slightly better in the event of aquaplaning, losing traction around a bend when pushing on etc. far outweighs all other aspects.

If I however were to use my vehicles purely for travelling to and from clients it would be about longevity instead of outright grip - very much horses for courses I assume.

Good luck with the selection process - keep us updated!

 

[Charlie600]

Also have a look at this - went through similar process not too long ago: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/693790-Best-replacement-tyres-for-Golf-7-GTI

 

[PostmanPot]

Close to jumping on the Bridgestone Potenza Adrenaline RE002s in 235 due to their price and favourable reviews.

I would be open to the Achilles 2233s but the above aren't that much more expensive, which I don't mind. The Michelins are a lot more, and I can always try them another time.

I will be moving the current rear Falken 225s to the front to use them up, and fitting the Bridgestones to the rear. Then in the next 4,000km I'll get new Bridgestones, so all four will be matching.

The question now is if I should go for 245 in the rear and 235 in the front, 245 all round, 235 all round... Wheels are 235/40/R18.

Sticking to one size seems best so they can be rotated, just wondering if I should to 235 or 245. Hmm.