Racial Classification

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icyrus said:
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"You are supportive of classifying people by race." - that is not racism.

"You find great glee in the fact that the majority can press this discrimination onto the minority." - this is not racism nor discrimination. Stop bending the definitions for sake of your accusational arguments.

"How about we take it further, what about eye colour and hair color?" - as I explained before, the amount of problem cases, based on this, seen proportinally to the population, are so small, so it can never be a major issue.

"And will you be regaling us with your delight at our democratic government's actions if they decided that now all people who are not African shouldn't be allowed to own property? Or walk in certain areas?" - no, that was Apartheid - everyone is free to walk where they want in the new SA.

"Will you be happy with new apartheid because this time you are on the benefiting side and you can happily tell us it is what the majority want? " - yes, but I would not call it Apartheid - I would call it a democracy - and so do millions of other proud South Africans!
 
Capetonian688 said:
"Will you be happy with new apartheid because this time you are on the benefiting side and you can happily tell us it is what the majority want? " - yes, but I would not call it Apartheid - I would call it a democracy - and so do millions of other proud South Africans!
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And if the majority now decides that they want to kill all white people, is that still good?
 
Xarog said:
Yup. You assume that all whites are racists. That makes you a racist.
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I did not assume all whites are racists. I was referring to the whites in key positions in the public sectors that are constantly doing clever things to prevent good Africans from getting those positions. Or are 100% of all whites in SA appointed in the public sector? If so, I correct myself.

So, because I was not referring to ALL whites, according to your original statement above, I am NOT a racist.
 
Capetonian688 said:
I did not assume all whites are racists. I was referring to the whites in key positions in the public sectors that are constantly doing clever things to prevent good Africans from getting those positions. Or are 100% of all whites in SA appointed in the public sector? If so, I correct myself.

So, because I was not referring to ALL whites, according to your original statement above, I am NOT a racist.
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And who are these enigmatic whites?

I smell a conspiracy theory coming on. :rolleyes:
 
icyrus said:
And if the majority now decides that they want to kill all white people, is that still good?
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No, because in principle, killing people is bad.

- Are you assuming that the African majority are thinking about killing all white people? Then, according to Xarog's statement, you are a racist. (because the use of your word "all".)
 
Capetonian688 said:
No, because in principle, killing people is bad.
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Killing is bad, discrimination and oppression are ok though? Got it.

Capetonian688 said:
Are you assuming that the African majority are thinking about killing all white people? Then, according to Xarog's statement, you are a racist. (because the use of your word "all".)
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Try keep up. I was asking how you would react to such a situation.
 
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Capetonian688 said:
I had no problem with you voicing your opinion. I was merely explaining that the SA government had already decided who's African and who's non-African. My "BS" points, as you call it, was intended as supportive reasoning on my explanation. And do not tell me I waste my time, or insinuate that I have problems with anyone voicing their opinions. You are clearly trying to build up ammonution in a vain attempt to get me into trouble. Do not put words in my mouth or make assumptions on my side about wasting my time etc.
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Dude are you ten?

You're obviously new here if you think I would run to the prefects or if you think talking **** was enough to get you into trouble on myadsl.
 
Xarog said:
So is discrimination.
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Yes. So is stealing, raping, mugging, fraud, etc. etc.
You might have well added these random crimes to your statement too; that would have implied that I was supportive of those as well. You would have liked that, wouldn't you?

Can we get back on topic?
 
Capetonian688 said:
No, because in principle, killing people is bad.
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Yes, and therefore unconstitutional just like discrimination. You see before you have a democracy you need to have this thing called a constitution that protects minorities from abuse by the majority.
 
Debbie2 said:
Capetonian688, no such law exists.
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Yes it does. On every BI form that you fill in, or many other government administrative forms, you have to sign to confirm that you have fully and correctly provided all the details needed. So if you cannot explain to the public officer why you are more "African" than you are "White" (as indicated on the form you have to fill in, if relevant), you have supplied inaccurate information, and are in breach of the law as implicated on the act of signature to be provided by you, and the end of the form. It is as simple as that.
 
Capetonian688 said:
Yes. So is stealing, raping, mugging, fraud, etc. etc.
You might have well added these random crimes to your statement too; that would have implied that I was supportive of those as well. You would have liked that, wouldn't you?

Can we get back on topic?
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You seem to have a persecution complex, which interestingly is pretty much the norm for the white racists on this forum. Just goes to show that stupidity, like racism knows no colour.
 
Nick333 said:
Yes, and therefore unconstitutional just like discrimination. You see before you have a democracy you need to have this thing called a constitution that protects minorities from abuse by the majority.
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True. But making a statement like this, as true as it may be, and in such a fancy and flashy way, does not imply that the writer referred to (me, in this case) was claiming that racial classification was an act of discrimination.
 
yes i have to say what i am on official forms, but the law's view is that i am whatever i consider myself to be.

I'm currently so black imma thinking of growing an afro....
 
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Nick333 said:
You seem to have a persecution complex, which interestingly is pretty much the norm for the white racists on this forum. Just goes to show that stupidity, like racism knows no colour.
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Once again, flashy and impressive use of phrases, which does nothing to supplement your argument.

And please do not associate me with the white racists on this forum.
 
Debbie2 said:
yes i have to say what i am on official forms, but the law's view is that i am whatever i consider myself to be.

I'm currently so black imma thinking of growing an afro....
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Haha! Sounds interesting. When you do gro an affro, place a pic on your ID!
You sound like a cool South African. I actually like your attitude. It is like a fresh breeze. I wish it would blow over to some other members here.
 
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