SA Guilds - 2010

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Well from what I remember in my time in close proximity to Conack:
- He failed to manage the raiding team by allowing people who failed miserably to continue being part of the raid group and be carried by other competent players
- He tried to maintain a Care Bear guild concept when it clearly was a major cause of issues and guild unrest
- He showed signs of favouritism towards some raiders
- He wrongfully accused somebody of loot whoring on not one but two occasions
That, to the best of my knowledge and recollection, are some of the things people might have against him.

So yes I'm not a fan of his either, but then again he also has no bearing on my current WoWing so I have no grudges to hold either. Best of luck to him and his guild.
 
Geessshh I had my fair share of raiding with VERY VERY harsh raid leaders... but from the sound of it Conack is the local Hitler of WoW hehe !

I would also love to know why there is so much hatred towards this dude....

For the record, I am not part of any of the guilds listed in this post nor have I ever been... well maybe tonight I will be applying to one of them if my transfer goes through.

Ok so who had the popcorn + peri-peri biltong last ? Gief...
 
For the record, I am not part of any of the guilds listed in this post nor have I ever been... well maybe tonight I will be applying to one of them if my transfer goes through.

Leaving me alone on bloodhoof? :O! Just kidding :P

Also , yea , met some really harsh but just players in my time .. but damn .. never felt this way towards them.
 
Lets take them out boys. I am sure someone around here has a measuring tape.

Seriously, stop acting like children and start playing your own game. This sounds like jealous bickering. "My guild is better than yours. Whhaaa Whaaa". It's pathetic.
 
Lets take them out boys. I am sure someone around here has a measuring tape.

Seriously, stop acting like children and start playing your own game. This sounds like jealous bickering. "My guild is better than yours. Whhaaa Whaaa". It's pathetic.

I second you on that one MJ. Last night I was in an ICC25 man and all I heard on TS was "adult men" complaining about how bad the players in the other guild was. (It's two guilds raiding together). Yet they continue raiding with them.

If someon upsets you so much, ignore them and exclude them from your life. Simple as that.
 
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Kobie

Fairest GM's you know? He aint snow-effing-white u know! lol
Do you perform oral on Conack? Just thought i would ask.
You are delusional, the dude clearly has a bad rep! Get with the program or stop sniffing bumbum, wipe the poo off your nose!

I've been a member of my broadband for a long time but this is the first time I've got trolled. Ten years ago I would have come up with a cunning retort involving certain posters mothers and suchlike but unfotunately I've gone and grown up. :(

I think I'll stop reading past this point, good luck with the dung flinging boys. :)
 
This sounds like jealous bickering.
Indeed! A few people just realised the wheelbarrow they carry their epeen on is a bit large thats all.

Everybody (4 people?) is riled up over ... what exactly? The sudden shocking realisation that Conack somehow managed to backstab, mudsling and with heaps of favoritism, smokkel Unforgiven II's way past Putricide25? Impressive for a guild that must be only close friends and family!

I'd expect nothing less from my GM \:D/ He managed to piss off everyone i didn't have the nerve to stand up to - and all the solid non-QQ raiders that make kills happen remain.

Please do not back Conack in any way since you will be unequvically made out as a brown-noser etc. Let him fight his own battle. I fully expect to be called a whimp, favour seeker, fanboy and even boetie-boetie.
 
You can't blame people running guilds in WoW. Guilds break up, reform, change, migrate, disband ect. all the time. I have been an officer in 2 guilds (hated it) as well as being a member of multiple guilds and I think I can truly say I have seen it all. It really doesn't matter to me unless you are in a guild with friends.

Which is why I believe its useless to slander someone who is a GM, guild politics are there and part of WoW, you can either get mixed up in it or move an and just enjoy everything else, and if your guilds disbands join the new one. By this time you should already have made a lot of friends and be able to join another guild with very little effort.
 
The friends and family are the ones that are irreplacable. There will always be those that are useful right now, but will be kicked in future when someone on Conack's friends list on facebook wants the spot.

The close RL guild friends we braai with, have not had raiding positions for months. Well played Ethereal. You've proven my point.

A very skilled raider was kicked from the UF2 progression pool (and within days, from the guild) in order to give you a tank spot.

No again. He was back in the guild before i tanked a single thing and is still on good speaking terms to this day with Conack.

("I'd expect nothing less from my GM "). So basically you're all for using and abusing whoever you need in order to get ahead? Shame on you :(

Nope - just a firm hand to deal with crap that nobody else wants to touch. If you're an instigator then it would look like abuse of power to get ahead. Btw getting ahead is what serious raiders are after these days.

I don't think I need to argue this at all. The facts speak for themselves. I'm just glad I've never experienced your backstabbing and double standards personally.
Amen!

In closing, "I'm pleased that my post had you create an account on the mybroadband forums Hatrix"
i've been meaning to do so for a few years now. Thanks for the motivation :)
 
so still no help for a fellow community member while you children babble along?

If this is what WoW does to you, i think i wont be playing anymore. pathetic.
 
Nah Grim, this is the result of people not using common decency in WoW and forgetting that those moving pixels are real people and not NPCs. Sadly such idiots are everywhere, not just in WoW.
 
was about to say, but Cyn beat me to it!!
Yes, Its unfortunate, the SA Wow community has its fair share of douche bags.
 
Hatrix. Bro. My man. Are you the mouth or the brains of the Conack fan club. It's hard to tell since you hardly seem adept at either function. I won't call you a fanboy etc. since you are merely doing what you are compelled to do. Conack logs onto WoW and calls the whaaaambulance. "Mew mew. I be made teh fewl on da forumz! Mew mew. Defend my honor else people get dropped from raid groups." And what do you know. You all happen to arrive here on the back of a Hi-Lux bakkie, sporting your mullets, torn jean jackets and New Rock's ready to "hand out a beat down! YO!"

I remember you Hatrix. You were the spineless fool on the Rez Sickness forums who didn't have the balls to post on your own account. Instead you logged onto Conack's account and slandered everyone personally. Don't bother even denying it. That action is a sign of guilt. Unfortunately it seems evolution is a process that takes millenia and sadly, you will be missing that boat. Your lack of intellect or originality is clearly evident in you inablility to post any meaningful arguments or counter-arguments, but instead resort to pointless quote replies. It's actually sad that by your second post we've managed to establish that we can expect very little from you in the way of constructive debate. I've seen my dog plead a better case to get his dinner from me.

To the rest of the thread haters, why come to a thread that is full of bitching, read all the posts, then bitch about all the bitching and ask to make said bitching stop.

I like how this is spiraling out of control. It's gone from me saying to avoid UF II beacause Conack is a hippocrite, to some half-wit brother piping up with some useless forum drivel. And boy oh boy can you twist words. That my dear, is because you have little or no meaningful retorts.
 
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so still no help for a fellow community member while you children babble along?

If this is what WoW does to you, i think i wont be playing anymore. pathetic.

You dont expect to get help by calling people babbling children. Your sympathetic cry for community help while calling the community children will earn you no favours. You also contradict yourself. First you want help from WoW players then you say you wont be playing. So which is it? WoW carries a teen rating so you don't qualify to play in any case. Might I refer you to Hello Kitty Adventure Island should you wish to play a MMO more suited to your "tastes".
 
Hatrix. Bro. My man. Are you the mouth or the brains of the Conack fan club. It's hard to tell since you hardly seem adept at either function. I won't call you a fanboy etc. since you are merely doing what you are compelled to do. Conack logs onto WoW and calls the whaaaambulance. "Mew mew. I be made teh fewl on da forumz! Mew mew. Defend my honor else people get dropped from raid groups." And what do you know. You all happen to arrive here on the back of a Hi-Lux bakkie, sporting your mullets, torn jean jackets and New Rock's ready to "hand out a beat down! YO!"

I remember you Hatrix. You were the spineless fool on the Rez Sickness forums who didn't have the balls to post on your own account. Instead you logged onto Conack's account and slandered everyone personally. Don't bother even denying it. That action is a sign of guilt. Unfortunately it seems evolution is a process that takes millenia and sadly, you will be missing that boat. Your lack of intellect or originality is clearly evident in you inablility to post any meaningful arguments or counter-arguments, but instead resort to pointless quote replies. It's actually sad that by your second post we've managed to establish that we can expect very little from you in the way of constructive debate. I've seen my dog plead a better case to get his dinner from me.

To the rest of the tread haters, why come to a thread that is full of bitching, read all the posts, then bitch about all the bitching and ask to make said bitching stop.

I like how this is spiraling out of control. It's gone from me saying to avoid UF II beacause Conack is a hippocrite, to some half-wit brother piping up with some useless forum drivel. And boy oh boy can you twist words. That my dear, is because you have little or no meaningful retorts.

The only thing I would like to know is who you are? :D Were you on US stormrage as well? The drama makes for an interesting read but would be so much better if you revealed who you actually are.
 
@Angellus
It pays to be quiet in g-chat, vent and guild forums. That way, when the poo hits the fan, your end is clean. Unfortunately, people don't forget, and forgiveness is less attainable. Your words and actions will haunt you forever and eventually come back to you. Even if I were to reveal who I am it would make no difference. My actions during my tenure in these guilds were less memorable than other peoples. That does not mean I didn't see what was going on. Even if I was to be revealed by means other than by my own accord, it still would not phase me as I said before, my end is clean.
 
@Angellus
It pays to be quiet in g-chat, vent and guild forums. That way, when the poo hits the fan, your end is clean. Unfortunately, people don't forget, and forgiveness is less attainable. Your words and actions will haunt you forever and eventually come back to you. Even if I were to reveal who I am it would make no difference. My actions during my tenure in these guilds were less memorable than other peoples. That does not mean I didn't see what was going on. Even if I was to be revealed by means other than by my own accord, it still would not phase me as I said before, my end is clean.

Well then why not tell us who you are?

The suspense is killing me, I want to know who you are. Kind of silly firing in big hits while hiding behind an alias?

anyway, SA guild drama never gets old.
 
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