SA IT Salaries revealed

Thank God for a good BA. Most developers can only communicate in 0's and 1's let alone speak to business
 
froot said:
Is there a reason why I know of so many web developers that make more than double this in a month?
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Because the categories given are woefully incapable of describing the reality of the field.
 
Does this article take into account the average of the # of years experience as well? I think that would give a better indication.

For example, a systems admin with 6 years exp and earning R20k p/m might have reason to be upset if someone with 3 years exp is getting paid the same.
 
Problem is that most devs think they are analysts as well, the so called development analyst. They perform best when told exactly what to do, and nothing more/less, via highly detailed specs, preventing the inevitable going "off tangent" scenario
 
Also don't mix up BA and architects. Eish we have a few bad ones...How can a architect ask a developer how the solution is supposed to work LOL?????
These guys are right, BA's technical skill is not the main driver here.
 
h0ll0w said:
How many years experience ?

If there is one thing I am certain about, its that if I want to find myself in that bracket in the next 3 years, I'll have to find myself another employer.
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Currently on about 3 years experience.
 
TheGuy said:
Currently on about 3 years experience.
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Well you are being pretty well paid for only 3 years experience I think. What certification's or equivalents do you have?

I Hope I am as lucky as you are when I start working,will have my MCSE and a few other equivalents and I am only expecting R3500 max for the first few years!
 
splinter_watsup said:
Well you are being pretty well paid for only 3 years experience I think. What certification's or equivalents do you have?

I Hope I am as lucky as you are when I start working,will have my MCSE and a few other equivalents and I am only expecting R3500 max for the first few years!
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Nah it's not that bad, just walk away if you're offered that much. I'd take it as an insult.

You can get away with R6-8k at most places, a bit more if you're lucky.
 
splinter_watsup said:
Well you are being pretty well paid for only 3 years experience I think. What certification's or equivalents do you have?

I Hope I am as lucky as you are when I start working,will have my MCSE and a few other equivalents and I am only expecting R3500 max for the first few years!
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Just completed my MCSE and also have A+ N+ and CCNA.

When I started 3 years ago I got paid R3000 then with a little bit of luck and a lot of hard work I was able to get where I'm now by getting promoted and changing jobs.
 
Smooth Criminal said:
Nah it's not that bad, just walk away if you're offered that much. I'd take it as an insult.

You can get away with R6-8k at most places, a bit more if you're lucky.
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To me the most important part was just to get my foot in the door. Once I had my first year of experience I could start negotiating for a better salary.
 
KaMoS said:
H-E-Y...I'm a BA!!! Don't hate on us, we have s-k-i-l-l-s.

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+1 I'm one as well. But I don't even earn the low end of the averages. Interesting to read in the article that there are a shortage of us.
 
TheGuy said:
To me the most important part was just to get my foot in the door. Once I had my first year of experience I could start negotiating for a better salary.
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Sure, but it's part of the problem. With the apparent skills shortage, one would think that there would be a bit more incentive to pursue a career in the field.

What ends up happening is they note that people are willing to start off working for very little, and adjust the salary scales throughout based on that. Remember that even R20k is not very much now. 10 years ago yeah, but right now no. A third of your salary would go towards paying off a very average townhouse, which is basically what it was 10 years ago. The joys of inflation :(
 
Smooth Criminal said:
Sure, but it's part of the problem. With the apparent skills shortage, one would think that there would be a bit more incentive to pursue a career in the field.

What ends up happening is they note that people are willing to start off working for very little, and adjust the salary scales throughout based on that. Remember that even R20k is not very much now. 10 years ago yeah, but right now no. A third of your salary would go towards paying off a very average townhouse, which is basically what it was 10 years ago. The joys of inflation :(
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Yes but there is an abundance of people around with no IT experience so if your not willing to work for that salary the next guy will.

I've made the decision a couple of years back that instead of complaining how bad the system is I'm going to make it work to my advantage.
 
Smooth Criminal said:
Sure, but it's part of the problem. With the apparent skills shortage, one would think that there would be a bit more incentive to pursue a career in the field.

What ends up happening is they note that people are willing to start off working for very little, and adjust the salary scales throughout based on that. Remember that even R20k is not very much now. 10 years ago yeah, but right now no. A third of your salary would go towards paying off a very average townhouse, which is basically what it was 10 years ago. The joys of inflation :(
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That is correct. I don’t think that people should think that R20K is that much, especially if you consider that these aren’t the cash amounts paid, they are the cost to company. If you take that into consideration, the actually cash amount you get out after deductions will be no more than 16K. The average house in SA costs R750K, which will be ~R7K p/m. That’s 43% of your salary, then there’s still insurance, living costs, travel, ect.
 
i presume these are cost to company salaries and not what you actually take home. working on the cost based scenario, mine is just within the target range, but certainly could be higher.....but then again, who's couldnt be higher;)
 
I am a Sys Admin and I am at the peak then of the average, I think this is CTC and it is not a lot of money to be honest, it's almost exactly the same as my salary 9 years ago in equivalency.
 
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