SA IT Salaries revealed

Lupus said:
I am a Sys Admin and I am at the peak then of the average, I think this is CTC and it is not a lot of money to be honest, it's almost exactly the same as my salary 9 years ago in equivalency.
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The problem is System admin will always have a roof so you need to move onto something else, you cannot keep doing it for the rest of your life.
 
TheGuy said:
The problem is System admin will always have a roof so you need to move onto something else, you cannot keep doing it for the rest of your life.
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I found exactly the same in my situation, you reach a peak and then have to move to something else otherwise you stagnate and lose against inflation.... Still fighting that battle....

krycor said:
the industry will only pay you what your last salary was.. this is how it works especially in the western cape
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In some cases the companies will offer up to 30% increase to your last package, but because of what you are earning, they want to make use of the "cheap" labour that they are acquiring. This norm is also in Gauteng starting to filter through.

deweyzeph said:
Actually you are under no obligation to reveal your previous salary to a recruitment agent or prospective employer. Just tell them what you want to earn, they have no right to ask you what your previous salary was, it's none of their business. If you are good at what you do then they are not going to not hire you just because you refuse to tell them your previous salary.
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I have spoken to a number of recruitment agencies about this exact statement. Their explanation is that if they don't submit the details, then companies will just ask for recruits that do submit the detail. It's a vicious cycle. The best I got so far is a 25% increase when moving, nothing market related yet. The only effect to this cause is that I will keep jumping until I find something market related and risk being called a job hopper.... It stays a catch 22.

The only way you will make real money is if you can afford to start something of your own and for that you need money or investors willing to part with their money on your risk profile. Bottom line is you need money to make money, a commodity which employees don't have.
 
Key said:
I found exactly the same in my situation, you reach a peak and then have to move to something else otherwise you stagnate and lose against inflation.... Still fighting that battle....



In some cases the companies will offer up to 30% increase to your last package, but because of what you are earning, they want to make use of the "cheap" labour that they are acquiring. This norm is also in Gauteng starting to filter through.



I have spoken to a number of recruitment agencies about this exact statement. Their explanation is that if they don't submit the details, then companies will just ask for recruits that do submit the detail. It's a vicious cycle. The best I got so far is a 25% increase when moving, nothing market related yet. The only effect to this cause is that I will keep jumping until I find something market related and risk being called a job hopper.... It stays a catch 22.

The only way you will make real money is if you can afford to start something of your own and for that you need money or investors willing to part with their money on your risk profile. Bottom line is you need money to make money, a commodity which employees don't have.
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There's nothing stopping you from lying to a recruitment agent about how much your previous salary was. People do this all the time.
 
21K for a network Admin?
Any idiot can be a network administrator, i can't believe they would even fathom to put an "admin" in the same pay bracket(or even higher) as a developer.
Seriously, is this some kind of joke ?

scuzzy said:
+1!

And also, I think these must be mostly Gauteng figures... I've some friends in PE, Durbs and CPT who doesn't earn those levels but have same responsibilities...then again, they don't have the responsibility to not freak out in 2.5 hour traffic everyday... :P
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AMEN TO THAT!
 
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TheGuy said:
Just completed my MCSE and also have A+ N+ and CCNA.

When I started 3 years ago I got paid R3000 then with a little bit of luck and a lot of hard work I was able to get where I'm now by getting promoted and changing jobs.
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Same qualifications as you, started last year January, with R5k, I am now on R15k, Like you say, Its how you swing it.
 
saffakanera said:
Same qualifications as you, started last year January, with R5k, I am now on R15k, Like you say, Its how you swing it.
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So it's not futile after all to opt for certificates (your MSCE's, A+'s, N+'s, CCNP's, etc.) over a conventional degree? Find out straight from varsity you earn >6k, guy with certificates also in that close range also. Then as you work, you advance, gain experience and thus be eligible for a lucrative post/job. In your case from 5k p/m to 15k p/m in +- a year. What are you working as now?
 
IT Management ... what does that consists out of ? studies wise...

because I've got my CCDP, CCNP (cisco certified network pro) & a degree in Marketing Management,

thinking about doing my MBA at USB, but don't know if i should go higher up in Cisco or wait a bit before I do MBA.
26 years old.
 
Joy-Energiser said:
21K for a network Admin?
Any idiot can be a network administrator, i can't believe they would even fathom to put an "admin" in the same pay bracket(or even higher) as a developer.
Seriously, is this some kind of joke ?
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I can't help but think that you've never actually worked with a good network admin, or worked in a network more complicated that a 10 machine LAN.

Besides, the category "network admin" covers a wide range of different positions.
 
@ j@w - I would say you should start pursuing something leadership or management wise, like IT management or something. IT management, mind you, is very broad - it could go from physical asset management, i.e infrustructure/hardware bla bla or managing other IT professionals like a line manager of developers or data centre manager etc. I do feel that people with a spacific skill, esp something very technical need to add to their knowledge in terms of the soft skills like management or strategy esp in business centred companies where Techies are seen as scum who don't know what business want. My opinion though!
 
bah! will be lucky to get anything this year
 
icyrus said:
I can't help but think that you've never actually worked with a good network admin, or worked in a network more complicated that a 10 machine LAN.

Besides, the category "network admin" covers a wide range of different positions.
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+1 If a network admin screws up it can cause a company to close it's doors. I know of a company that had a financial server crash and they didn't have proper backups. This meant that they had no idea who owed them money so after a couple of months they went bankrupt.
 
i am a systems administrator - and get way under those amounts!

Well, now i know where all my tax is going!

*wonder if i could get one of them to come fill my pothole outside my house?*
 
While I'm not going to discredit these stats even though forum opinion is that few fall within the bracket, I can say that job satisfaction is dependent on your requirements.

While I'm not prepared to divulge my salary relevant to these stats, I can say that my income is negligible in making me keep my current job. My work environment and conditions are more important. Have a kid and another on the way, factors like true flexi-hours, 10minutes from home, telecommuting and a understanding boss is the primary factor.

Anyway, if it was just about the money then I would have done my MBA and not started a family.
 
Anybody know what sort of certifications / degrees a business analyst is supposed to have ?
 
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