SA Politics Thread Part 11: The GNU Normal

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Solarion said:
When all else fails, celebrate filling potholes and road markings and set your MSM dogs on your GNU partners.

All the while, not a single delegation or representative in the US discussing tariffs or AGOA in 3 months. Rather build pit toilets and hail this as leadership success. They must think the people of SA are stupid.

Gaslighting and whataboutism won't buy the ANC enough time and it is a currency that has run dry.
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The average voter kinda is stupid.

Who watches Zuma destroy the country and then proceed to give him a second term? Who watches Zuma do even more damage and then vote ANC again? Who watches Ramaphosa do nothing and then, wait for it, votes for the ANC and its splinter party AGAIN. Stupid voters, that's who.
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
I've literally heard of no-one measuring the performance of a political party through growth in membership. Indeed in the UK in 2019, the Labour party had far more members but lost the election.
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In my experience white people tend to have a different understanding of what membership means, I will make an example being a member of organised labour, workers affiliated with Solidariteit and other white unions are just members, they don't attend meetings, they don't do strikes, they are just members.

Contrast that to us, our union membership means power in numbers, we are the very definition of organised labour, an injury to one is an injury to all, that is the power you people are always moaning about, and where does it come from? Membership in good standing, that's why we are still obsessed about not just being a supporter, we understand the value of belonging.

Maybe that's what happened in Britain, people were just members on paper and totally had no appreciation what it means.
 
TheChamp said:
Firstly, the nonsense you have just typed is your logic, own it and don't make it mine.

Let me explain how the concept of membership work and how does it relate to the party support.

Firstly, having 1 million members doesn't necessarily translate to 1 million votes, the ANC at its strongest had just over a million members yet they got over 10 million votes, even now with it's numbers having gone down, they still got over 6 million votes, it simply implies at your worst you are more likely to at the very least get votes more or less equal to your members, so keeping this number up is what everyone strives for.

Members are like ambassadors for your brand, the more you have of those, the most likely it that people will buy into your brand. Members are more likely to recruit others to join, it's not a complicated concept.

The reason the EFF is so resilient is because of strong membership.

Has ActionSA had a press conference to announce their membership, no idea.
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Until ASA has an elective conference. they will always be seen as a cult, like that Nkandla one...
 
TheChamp said:
In my experience white people tend to have a different understanding of what membership means, I will make an example being a member of organised labour, workers affiliated with Solidariteit and other white unions are just members, they don't attend meetings, they don't do strikes, they are just members.

Contrast that to us, our union membership means power in numbers, we are the very definition of organised labour, an injury to one is an injury to all, that is the power you people are always moaning about, and where does it come from? Membership in good standing, that's why we are still obsessed about not just being a supporter, we understand the value of belonging.

Maybe that's what happened in Britain, people were just members on paper and totally had no appreciation what it means.
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Yeah power in numbers without a doubt, but also a Mob is only as smart as its stupidest member and the unions typify that statement as well.
 
DA reveals that Mchunu is now under criminal investigation

The DA can reveal that confirmation received yesterday from the South African Police Service affirms that our criminal charges against former-Minister Senzo Mcunu are now under investigation.

A senior Lieutenant Colonel has been assigned as investigating officer in the criminal matter against Mchunu, marking the seriousness with which the SAPS are treating the case of their former-Minister.

Last week the DA laid criminal charges against Mchunu, for lying to Parliament about his proximity to Mr Brown Mogotsi. The DA criminal complaint asks the Police to investigate fraud and breaching the Powers, Privileges and Immunities of Parliament Act, by Mchunu.
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www.politicsweb.co.za

Senzo Mchunu now under criminal investigation – Bax Nodada | Politicsweb

Senior Lieutenant Colonel has been assigned as investigating officer in the criminal matter, says DA MP
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TheChamp said:
I would like us to stick to the point if you don't mind.
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You raised the unions point and power in numbers, you don't get to decide what is relevant or not to the point you raised especially when you don't like it because you know its true.
 

The US could force major car brand to close its factory in South Africa​

South African industries that rely on exports face serious challenges due to the impending US tariffs, and Mercedes-Benz is reportedly concerned about the future of its production plant in East London.

This is according to acting Eastern Cape Premier Mlungusi Mvoko, who expressed grave concerns about Mercedes Benz South Africa’s (MBSA) potential departure.

The United States’ has remained firm on its decision to impose a 30% tariff on certain South African exports, effective from 1 August 2025.
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businesstech.co.za

The US could force major car brand to close its factory in South Africa

Mercedes-Benz is concerned about the future of its production plant in East London.
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More bombshells about the corrupt SAPS.

Apparently the former Gauteng Police Commissioner Elias Mawela and others are the ones pushing drugs in Gauteng. 💣

Teffo also states Senzo Meyiwa was killed as he was about to receive a drug shipment.

Always knew there was something off off about his murder and subsequent cover up by the state.

Calls for Ramaphosa to step down heat up. The MK has given him a letter demanding he step down by tommorow or they will start nation wide mass protests.

It's going down in South Africa. This is the time of reckoning.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945771049695445348
 
MalcomZ said:
More bombshells about the corrupt SAPS.

Apparently the former Gauteng Police Commissioner Elias Mawela and others are the ones pushing drugs in Gauteng. 💣

Teffo also states Senzo Meyiwa was killed as he was about to receive a drug shipment.

Always knew there was something off off about his murder and subsequent cover up by the state.

Calls for Ramaphosa to step down heat up. The MK has given him a letter demanding he step down by tommorow or they will start nation wide mass protests.

It's going down in South Africa. This is the time of reckoning.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945771049695445348
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We need a new commission of inquiry for these allegations...
 
This country is about to go up in flames. 🔥

SAPS corruption, illegal foreigners, unbearable cost of living, unemployment, arrogant civil servants and more.

The state says they are aware of a planned coup attempt because they are trembling. This is not sustainable.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945811975092482254
 
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