SARS E-Filing 2020/21

The_Mowgs said:
Query them
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Yes... however everyday it's another excuse..now saying audits take 60 days... even though I have completion letters for everything
 
Nikkivah74 said:
Yes... however everyday it's another excuse..now saying audits take 60 days... even though I have completion letters for everything
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SupremeELITE69 said:
SARS is useless, getting a straightforward answer from them is like trying to tap blood from a stone....
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Most of the call center people are casual workers during tax season hence the different answers from different people.
 
Would anybody have any insight on what needs to be done here? I figured my return would need to submit documents for verification as one of the trades I do generated a loss, while another generated a gain, and overall meant I would be due a small refund. I did not claim for WFH expenses, and I am already a provisional tax payer.

So I submitted my itr12 and got the calculation and request for supporting documents for verification, however I realised my refund was a bit more than I calculated the previous day (doh for not doing a calculation before submitting), so went through the return and noticed I had made an error and included one set of the costs for one trade into both of the trade expenses. So I applied for correction, and redid the return, correcting the mistake. Now there are two requests for supporting documents, one for documents for review, which I already had all on hand and submitted, and one for audit. Both are asking for the same documents in their verification letters though. They've acknowledged receipt of the supporting documents, but there is still this outstanding supporting documents link waiting for upload, so what should I do with that, since I've already submitted documents for the first supporting documents request?
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Also, both requests for supporting documents have the same case number, so still not sure what to do.
 
Pansyfaust said:
Would anybody have any insight on what needs to be done here? I figured my return would need to submit documents for verification as one of the trades I do generated a loss, while another generated a gain, and overall meant I would be due a small refund. I did not claim for WFH expenses, and I am already a provisional tax payer.

So I submitted my itr12 and got the calculation and request for supporting documents for verification, however I realised my refund was a bit more than I calculated the previous day (doh for not doing a calculation before submitting), so went through the return and noticed I had made an error and included one set of the costs for one trade into both of the trade expenses. So I applied for correction, and redid the return, correcting the mistake. Now there are two requests for supporting documents, one for documents for review, which I already had all on hand and submitted, and one for audit. Both are asking for the same documents in their verification letters though. They've acknowledged receipt of the supporting documents, but there is still this outstanding supporting documents link waiting for upload, so what should I do with that, since I've already submitted documents for the first supporting documents request?
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Also, both requests for supporting documents have the same case number, so still not sure what to do.
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It is standard practice for SARS to change the verification to an audit when a correction is made to a previously submitted return before the verification is complete. I have done it a few times and in all cases the type of review changed to an audit.

You need to submit the supporting documents that are linked to the audit request. SARS will ignore the documents that have been submitted under the review request.

EDIT: You might also get a verification fail letter, basically telling you the verification could not be complete, which makes sense as this is no longer relevant
 
Koosvanwyk said:
It is standard practice for SARS to change the verification to an audit when a correction is made to a previously submitted return before the verification is complete. I have done it a few times and in all cases the type of review changed to an audit.

You need to submit the supporting documents that are linked to the audit request. SARS will ignore the documents that have been submitted under the review request.

EDIT: You might also get a verification fail letter, basically telling you the verification could not be complete, which makes sense as this is no longer relevant
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Koosvanwyk said:
You cannot do as suggested if you are a salaried employee, the ITA does not allow for this.
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i know what i am talking about, the wizard asks you if there are any deductions you need to claim, thats where you can claim any expenses that you want. The only things that are a must to be apportioned are things like rent /water/electricity bill/ cleaning costs and other household/office maintenance. Things such as desk/chair/data etc you don't need to portion them, you just need to provide proof which is an invoice. If you happen to make a mistake and apportion them then now you must prove how you calculated the apportionment.
 
adoali said:
i know what i am talking about, the wizard asks you if there are any deductions you need to claim, thats where you can claim any expenses that you want. The only things that are a must to be apportioned are things like rent /water/electricity bill/ cleaning costs and other household/office maintenance. Things such as desk/chair/data etc you don't need to portion them, you just need to provide proof which is an invoice. If you happen to make a mistake and apportion them then now you must prove how you calculated the apportionment.
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No you're wrong. As a salaried employee the apportionment applies to all working from home expenses/home office expenses.
 
I've received word that I will be audited. 21 days it says on the communication.
 
adoali said:
i know what i am talking about, the wizard asks you if there are any deductions you need to claim, thats where you can claim any expenses that you want. The only things that are a must to be apportioned are things like rent /water/electricity bill/ cleaning costs and other household/office maintenance. Things such as desk/chair/data etc you don't need to portion them, you just need to provide proof which is an invoice. If you happen to make a mistake and apportion them then now you must prove how you calculated the apportionment.
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The original post was about telecommunication cost. This is an expense that can be claimed in terms of section 11(a) of the Income Tax Act. Your reference to "desks" / "chairs" is something completely different. These need to be assessed ito section 11(e) and not section 11(a). The initial post had nothing to do with section 11(e) deductions.

When you are a salaried employee any 11(a) deduction has to also comply with section 23(b) and 23(m). These sections limit and prohibit certain deductions (prohibited expense include household and bond insurance cost, home phone and cell phone cost, initial fees for fibre installation etc are all specifically prohibited, and nothing can be deducted).

For 11(a) deductions you have to use the apportionment method (the actual text used is "Should you qualify for a deduction in respect of home office expenses, the amount must be calculated on the following basis: A / B x total costs". There is actually a very old interpretation note 28 that explains this very nicely (interestingly, according to this ISP cost is included in those items that are prohibited ito section 23(m))

P.S. Staring with "I know what I am talking about" is probably not the best strategy when you are trying to debate anything as it often points to the exact opposite.
 
SARS are doing this on purpose. I'm a pensioner trying to get my out of pocket expenses.(R4500) Currently I'm over 65 years category.
I have send them everything. But they still keeping sending me this. This happened from Auto assessed to audit.
WTF SARS, should I give them a tinkle and let them call me back?
How fast are these buggers to get back to you?
 

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SARS are doing this on purpose. I'm a pensioner trying to get my out of pocket expenses.(R4500) Currently I'm over 65 years category.
I have send them everything. But they still keeping sending me this. This happened from Auto assessed to audit.
WTF SARS, should I give them a tinkle and let them call me back?
How fast are these buggers to get back to you?
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I have also received my 4th letter now, one every sunday from the 1st July after submitting my supporting documents.... SARS is deliberately withholding tax refunds from Tax payers this year, in my last 20 years of claims i have never experienced such pathetic service... a product of a failed state, it's no wonder Tax payers are leaving this country, nothing works anymore.
 
SupremeELITE69 said:
I have also received my 4th letter now, one every sunday from the 1st July after submitting my supporting documents.... SARS is deliberately withholding tax refunds from Tax payers this year, in my last 20 years of claims i have never experienced such pathetic service... a product of a failed state, it's no wonder Tax payers are leaving this country, nothing works anymore.
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I spoke this morning to Dis-Chem, see knows what documents SARS scum want.
She will prepare them for me. I will not give them a cent more.
 
I cannot fathom SARS out. I am owed R700 since 2013. Not much, but rather in my account instead of theirs

5 weeks ago I receive a letter asking me to resubmit my 2012 return. Yes, 9 years ago and they want it again. I have no records whatsoever, apart from a spreadsheet

So I wrote them. Their response was to sent me the same letter again. I called their office, the lady was very abrupt and said it was my responsibility to keep records for as long as SARS might want them. Her accent was so poor I could not really make out what she was saying

The PC at that time was in a shop and disappeared during a burglary in 2016
 
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