Scientific and logical objections to evolution...

Swa said:
Even if there wasn't some would still not even classify them as anything but human. Sounds like they were human then.


On the contrary not replying has nothing to do with honesty. I said it already my belief has nothing to do with the subject. If we're going to discuss beliefs here you'll have even less of a leg to stand on than me.
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Wotabout Homo Erectus then?

Much dissembling, it seems. C'mon, Stand Up, Stand Up for Jesus, Ye Soldiers of the Cross.

PS. No, by Homo Erectus I'm not referring to that gay porno musical they are advertising on Gumtree.
 
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Swa said:
Why not just say so instead of going on with floods...
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I did, three times.

It's real simple, editorial or article or comment or whatever, the facts remain. A bunch of "experts" disagree on whether or not there was disease. Most likely there was some disease then.
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So your position is that some members of the population may have had a disease. That's so.........bleh.

Even if there wasn't some would still not even classify them as anything but human. Sounds like they were human then.
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They were certainly culturally and physically close enough to us to qualifly as "human" by our standards (well some of our standards). They also represented a significant variation in both DNA and morphology to be regarded as at least sub-species (if not a separate species) of humanity.

The interesting story is of course their interaction with our ancesters and why some population groups boast bit of Neanderthal DNA and others don't.

Now if we could address these questions?

Do you believe in a flood event in or about 2348 BC?

How old do you believe the earth to be?

a) about 6010 years old.

b) about 4.5 Billion years old.

There are no wrong answers, so go right ahead and answer, you know you want to.
 
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pity so many people arguing against evolution, don't cite sources.
well, here goes

DNA by Design: lecture by Dr. Stephen C. Meyer
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/video_show_item.php?id=79

Science and Evidence for Design in the Universe. Michael J. Behe, William A. Dembski, Stephen C. Meyer
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/book_show_item.php?id=46

Exercise Your Wonder
with Dr. Howard Glicksman
http://www.arn.org/docs/glicksman/eyw_120510.htm

Origin of the Human Species by Dr. Dennis Bonnette
http://drbonnette.com/

Chimpanzee? Dr Richard Buggs
http://www.refdag.nl/chimpanzee_1_282611

Michael Cremo
http://www.mcremo.com/lectures.html
 
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SEF said:
*sigh*

pity so many people arguing against evolution, don't cite sources.
well, here goes

DNA by Design: lecture by Dr. Stephen C. Meyer
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/video_show_item.php?id=79

Science and Evidence for Design in the Universe. Michael J. Behe, William A. Dembski, Stephen C. Meyer
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/book_show_item.php?id=46

Exercise Your Wonder
with Dr. Howard Glicksman
http://www.arn.org/docs/glicksman/eyw_120510.htm

Origin of the Human Species by Dr. Dennis Bonnette
http://drbonnette.com/

Chimpanzee? Dr Richard Buggs
http://www.refdag.nl/chimpanzee_1_282611

Michael Cremo
http://www.mcremo.com/lectures.html
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*sigh*

Pointing us to a site selling books :rolleyes:
 
SEF said:
*sigh*

pity so many people arguing against evolution, don't cite sources.
well, here goes

DNA by Design: lecture by Dr. Stephen C. Meyer
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/video_show_item.php?id=79

Science and Evidence for Design in the Universe. Michael J. Behe, William A. Dembski, Stephen C. Meyer
http://www.arn.org/arnproducts/php/book_show_item.php?id=46

Exercise Your Wonder
with Dr. Howard Glicksman
http://www.arn.org/docs/glicksman/eyw_120510.htm

Origin of the Human Species by Dr. Dennis Bonnette
http://drbonnette.com/

Chimpanzee? Dr Richard Buggs
http://www.refdag.nl/chimpanzee_1_282611

Michael Cremo
http://www.mcremo.com/lectures.html
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SEF, are you a deist?
 
SEF said:
No, why do you ask ?
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Why do you support ID then? I am assuming you are a theist. At best ID can get you to some sort of deism or atheism with intelligent aliens.
 
SEF said:
I am trying to prove that there is design in the universe, be it by whatever means. It can be God, it can be aliens. There's no restriction.
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Define "design" the way you understand. Different people may have a different understanding of the concept.

"There is design" or "there is no design" appear to be a subjective assertions or philosophical assertions.
 
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SEF said:
Because evolution as a means of understanding the universe is false.
Michael Cremo, who i believe to be a true source of valuable information, has challenged the evolution concept.
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This Michael Cremo? One doesn't really have to go much beyond the opening line of the wiki article on him: "Michael A. Cremo (born July 15, 1948, Schenectady, New York), also known as Drutakarma Dasa, is an American Hindu creationist whose work argues that humans have lived on the earth for billions of years."

Seriously? :wtf:

Wonder if this spiritual savant still has me on ignore...
 
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