Scooters.

Why don't you go and have a ride on the Honda? I'd be surprised if it doesn't go as well as the slightly bigger engined but less reputable brands. At least Honda are prepared to list the power and torque ratings for ther engines - many of the Chinese makes don't do that, and for good reason. The Honda is likely to outlast most of the other makes too, and is in the ballpark pricewise.
 
Colin62 said:
Why don't you go and have a ride on the Honda? I'd be surprised if it doesn't go as well as the slightly bigger engined but less reputable brands. At least Honda are prepared to list the power and torque ratings for ther engines - many of the Chinese makes don't do that, and for good reason. The Honda is likely to outlast most of the other makes too, and is in the ballpark pricewise.
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I've done quite a bit of research on these SYM scooters, and they have a good reputation.

The Honda is quite a bit more, and performance wise, the Symply 150 seems a good bet:

http://www.sascooters.co.za/index.php/topic,5050.0.html
 
Colin62 said:
You know that you're now the resident scooter expert, don't you? :D
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I have no clue, lol.

You've thrown a spanner in the works now though, as it seems the Honda Vision gets possibly an extra 20KM/L, which is a ****-load...

Decisions!
 
Seriously, take them each for a test ride, and preferably ride the same hill with each to get an idea of what they can do. Only issue is they might both seem to go very well at first but as you get used to riding, you might find yourself wanting more performance.
 
copacetic said:
I weigh 85, and hope to get down to 80 soon. :D

The whole point of this exercise is cheap, cheap, cheap, so...

After a lot of phoning around, these are the options available in my area, aside from the various Chinese cheapies:

*Sym Symphony and Fiddle 125.
*Suzuki AN125
*PGO XHOT
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Damn haha 80kg means you can get away with most things and fuel consumption will be really good. I would still recommend the Honda or that Suzuki. Might be more expensive now but that investment will pay dividends in terms of reliability and resale value.
 
Never underestimate the Korean scoots. PGO is a great scoot sold via Mike Hopkins. Resell values are good- if you can ever find a used one.

Prices but not sure of the year

PMX110N R 15 995.00
T-Rex 125 R 14 500.00
X-Hot 125 R 18 995.00
G-Max 125
G-Max 220 EFI R 28 500.00
 
copacetic said:
All around 12/12.5K

I think I may go for this:

http://www.symsa.co.za/products/symply-150/

It's 12.5K.

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I'm looking at this one. Classical look, same GY7 engine.
http://www.bigboy.co.za/bb-scooters-v1/revival-150.html
REVIVAL 150 Big Boy Scooter - R9,450.00
 
As for ATGATT the total amount of decent gear could way top the price of any chinese scooter
It's a load of Codswallop. Learn to ride properly and expect everybody is out to kill you every single day you ride and you should be ok.
 
A thing to consider: the smaller dia. wheels of the scooter make it more maneuverable in traffic than it's larger wheeled cousin, but in an emergency braking situation, I'd rather be on a bike.....the small scooters vs small bikes.

I'm not speaking of these modern 400cc and up fancy machines ...most,if not all of them, have ABS, I think.
 
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Whoo, got a call today, it's all ready and licensed.

Having never ridden a scooter before, any advice on not getting myself killed getting the thing home from the dealership on Monday? :D
 
copacetic said:


Having never ridden a scooter before, any advice on not getting myself killed getting the thing home from the dealership on Monday? :D[/QUOTE]

Yea, put some training wheel on! Seriously, they're easy to ride. When my wife brought one many years ago I had to go an collect it from the dealer. Never driven one before, drove it home - about 12KM or so.

Get on, feel the weight and balance a bit, slowly open the throttle while keeping your legs out a bit to stop you from falling. you'll probably drive it within a few minutes. I didn't have that "luxury" cause I didn't want the shop owner to think I don't have a license for it, which I didn't. My wife only got her learners about 3 months later.
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copacetic said:
Symply-150-scooter-in-Red.jpg


Whoo, got a call today, it's all ready and licensed.

Having never ridden a scooter before, any advice on not getting myself killed getting the thing home from the dealership on Monday? :D
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Just don't go full throttle from stand still, that's really a bad idea.
I was told to practice, just for a few seconds, to apply a little petrol (right hand) until it starts to pull and then let go and apply brakes (left hand). This is because some people, when they get a fright or something and instead of brakes, go full throttle. This is usually when things like this happen: LINK
 
SoftDux-Rudi said:
Yea, put some training wheel on! Seriously, they're easy to ride. When my wife brought one many years ago I had to go an collect it from the dealer. Never driven one before, drove it home - about 12KM or so.

Get on, feel the weight and balance a bit, slowly open the throttle while keeping your legs out a bit to stop you from falling. you'll probably drive it within a few minutes. I didn't have that "luxury" cause I didn't want the shop owner to think I don't have a license for it, which I didn't. My wife only got her learners about 3 months later.
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Good advice. Just take it easy for 10 minutes on it. Do a few figure 8's till you're happy with turning. Definitely be careful with the throttle. Don't open it wide, you will fly off if you're not expecting it.

And most importantly ENJOY IT! There is no feeling quite like riding a bike. You'll never stop riding once you start.
 
I must say, I am looking forward to it, only two wheeled thing I've ever used is a bicycle.

Still have to get gloves, a helmet, and a jacket though, and holy ****, that stuff is not cheap.
 
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