Spanking lowers IQ

LancelotSA said:
All we actually need is for you to realise the difference between a child that is abused and a child that is disciplined.
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Discipline: spanking as a last resort or for serious transgressions.
Abuse: locking a kid in a room then waterboarding it until the message is clear. EAT ZE PEAZ!! Oh and we'll send in the family one by one to discuss the pea issue in person.

LOL...:D
 
Reptilian said:
heard enough of ur sackspear babble. the BDSM crew has degenerated into flame throwing and irrelevant non-sense. already proof that my theory is correct
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What!?

Are you related to rza by any chance?
 
Reptilian: here is the kiddies page from Childline SA:

http://www.childlinesa.org.za/content/view/17/80/1/0/

Corporal Punishment

Do you know what Corporal Punishment is?

This is when physical punishment is handed down to someone from a teacher or parent. For example it is when you’re smacked or hit as a form of punishment.

Is Corporal Punishment allowed?

According to our law, corporal punishment in schools is not allowed. However, getting a smack at home is not against the law (although steps are being taken to stop this too). This does not mean that your parents are allowed to hit you senseless and get away with it. If your parents did continuously hit you as a form of punishment, it would be considered abusive.

Are you punished by your caregivers or disciplined?

There is a difference between punishing a child and disciplining them. Punishment is based on the belief that if children are made to suffer for doing something wrong, they will not do it again. For example, a hard smack on the buttocks.

Disciplining a child involves them taking responsibility for what they have done, helping them make amends for this when this is possible, and thereby making them learn that the behaviour is unacceptable. For example, taking away the privilege of television for a day.

Why caregivers may be punishing you?

Children today have a lot more freedom than before. They grow up fast by watching TV, playing video games and accessing the internet. This means that you are very often far more advanced than your care-givers give you credit for. You talk back. You question orders without just accepting them. This leads to conflict and very often your parents and caregivers are at a loss about what they should do. Your parents are also under a lot of pressure. They have to work hard to provide what you need and want. They are constantly under pressure and this means that they aren’t able to spend much time with you and when they are with you, they often don’t know ‘what makes you tick’. So, when there is trouble in the home, parents often resort to smacking and destructive forms of punishment and discipline.

How can we change things?

It isn’t simple. It calls for everyone to compromise and communicate. It is not acceptable for parents to discipline or punish in an abusive way, but try to look at the situation from their perspective. Are people communicating in your home? Are you talking through problems? Are you trying to understand what your parents may be going through in order to provide for you?

Accept responsibility & play a more active role

Being a child means you are constantly changing - you are trying to find out who you are, what you like, and who you like. To top it all, there is a lot of peer pressure nowadays. Ask yourself if you sometimes behave in a manner that makes it difficult for your caregivers to approach you. A lot of children find it difficult to talk to their parents – but it works both ways. Caregivers aren’t mind readers and can only help you if you let them. Also, ask yourself if you show appreciation for all the things your caregivers do for you, even if you don’t get all the things you want.

What does this have to do with punishment and discipline?

Well, if there is no communication and openness between you and your caregiver, perhaps that is why they resort to unacceptable forms of discipline and punishment. Are you treating your caregivers as you would like to be treated? Perhaps try talking to them about the way that they punish/discipline you. You never know, they might value your input!
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Reptilian said:
am i allowed to smack my parents?

*this post will probably left alone out of pure sheer caveman stupidity as people would think that i mean it was for 'brining me into this world'*

answer the question relevantly you fool!
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Do you have a death wish?
 
Reptilian said:
am i allowed to smack my parents?

*this post will probably left alone out of pure sheer caveman stupidity of this mind spanked society as people would think that i mean it was for 'brining me into this world'*

answer the question relevantly you fool!
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You're calling people fools before they've even answered your question. LOL. You're pre-empting a rush of negative responses but I doubt anyone really gives a toss about your posts any longer. More than just that, the fact that you've anticipated the answers tell you a lot already. It might just interest the Baron...

But as an answer to your question: go give it a shot (so to speak) and post the results...
 
Reptilian said:
thoughts exactly, SA is mind spanked. people can't reason. i have absolutely no idea why you hang out in these forums even, amazing, no, it's preposterous.

Your mother should have microwaved you, love her dearly.
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Goodbye youngster. Off to do adult stuff.
 
Ha ha good to see this thread has literally become the joke it threatened to from the outset. Worth a good few laughs while keeping an eye on the cricket.
 
You are more than allowed to smack your parents...

Just don't go crying to your shrink when your mom or dad stops spanking you and decks you like you deserve.
 
Reptilian said:
it was a reasoned question that i put forward: are we allowed to smack our parents? answer the question without forever slithering around with what you were taught.

I want a pure reasoned mathematical answer and not a lout response.
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You can try. That is why smacking stops roughly when the son gets bigger and stronger than the daddy ( not that us daddies don't know the odd dirty trick, just for emergencies, mind ). Otherwise, a quick snotklap, and all is sorted.

:):)
 
Reptilian said:
it was a reasoned question that i put forward: are we allowed to smack our parents? answer the question without forever slithering around with what you were taught.

I want a pure reasoned mathematical answer and not a lout response.
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Do a human behavioral experiment. Walk up to your dad and give him a smack.

Report back on your findings.
 
Reptilian said:
it was a reasoned question that i put forward: are we allowed to smack our parents? answer the question without forever slithering around with what you were taught.

I want a pure reasoned mathematical answer and not a lout response.
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Reptilian, think about what you are saying for a second....

Ok, that probably didn't work, so let's back track a bit. We were discussing discipline. We more specifically were talking about spanking/hidings as a form of discipline. Now why on earth would a child be disciplining their parents?!?! Think five year old here... sorry but your arguments are making no sense!
 
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LancelotSA said:
We were discussing discipline. We more specifically were talking about spanking/hidings as a form of discipline. Now why on earth would a child be disciplining their parents?!?! Think five year old here... sorry but your arguments are making no sense!
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Nicely said. Discipline and abuse, two very different kettles of fish.
 
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