Springboks vs England 2012 - 3 Test tour

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/EnglandinSA/Kirchner-set-for-No-15-jersey-20120604

Probable Bok starting team (Sport24):
15 Zane Kirchner,
14 JP Pietersen,
13 Jean de Villiers (captain),
12 Frans Steyn,
11 Bryan Habana,
10 Morné Steyn,
9 Francois Hougaard,
8 Pierre Spies,
7 Willem Alberts,
6 Marcell Coetzee,
5 Juandré Kruger,
4 Eben Etzebeth,
3 Jannie du Plessis,
2 Bismarck du Plessis,
1 Beast Mtawarira.

This is a good team (I would however not play Kirschner).

Now if the right bench is picked........
 
Yeah Kirschner is the only real dodgy pick i would say.

Hopefully we murder England because the hate directed at HM is getting rather tiresome.

When is Duane coming back? We need him to replace Spies.
 
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Zyzzyva said:
Yeah Kirschner is the only real dodgy pick i would say.

Hopefully we murder England because the hate directed at HM is getting rather tiresome.

When is Duane coming back? We need him to replace Spies.
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+1. I can remember the Bulls fans also hating him for the first season, come the second and third season he was a hero.

I also would love for Vermeulen to replace Spies as he is not making the impact and imo is only starting because vermuelen is injured and alberts has not had a great season thus far.

Also hope that Hougie is working very hard on his kicking game as that is the one part of his game that is not great.

If Ezebeth and Kruger start it will be interesting to see how well the play as a pair.
 
Krusty at fullback will be a fscking joke. Meyer has shown his hand at being somewhat of a d**s if he keeps picking all these idiots in the team.
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Krusty at fullback will be a fscking joke. Meyer has shown his hand at being somewhat of a d**s if he keeps picking all these idiots in the team.
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Problem I have with cracking HM now is that the man has not even had his first test yet. Proof will be in the pudding.

May I ask if you liked Jake White?
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Krusty at fullback will be a fscking joke. Meyer has shown his hand at being somewhat of a d**s if he keeps picking all these idiots in the team.
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Wow
Maybe the boks need you as a technical advisor, with all this in depth rugby knowledge you have HM will be a D**S not to personally invite you!

Rather keep your comments until after the 3 matches
 
Devill said:
Problem I have with cracking HM now is that the man has not even had his first test yet. Proof will be in the pudding.

May I ask if you liked Jake White?
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Nobody rates Krusty and for very very good reason, he sucks. A coach should be able to see what player can and cannot do the business and if he can't, well. And I didn't like Jake in the beginning, just like any other Bok coach, they have to grow on me by their actions.
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Krusty at fullback will be a fscking joke. Meyer has shown his hand at being somewhat of a d**s if he keeps picking all these idiots in the team.
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His name is Sideshow Bob...

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Maybe he'll play better if he's actually wanted in the side, unlike last time he was picked.
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Nobody rates Krusty and for very very good reason, he sucks. A coach should be able to see what player can and cannot do the business and if he can't, well. And I didn't like Jake in the beginning, just like any other Bok coach, they have to grow on me by their actions.
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Ah so you start of with a #@$#@$ bang and then go milder :D:p

I will give HM the benefit of the doubt atm as he has invested in a lot of players that went on to become amongst the best in their position if not the best.

I do however share the feeling that Kirschner is not on par, BUT, HM has won Currie Cups, Vodacom Cups, Super Trophies and taken a provincial side that was the worst in SA to a provincial side that dominated the local scene for almost 10 years.

Myself, well I have "coached" a rugby team on playstation to WC glory.
 
Devill said:
Ah so you start of with a #@$#@$ bang and then go milder :D:p

I will give HM the benefit of the doubt atm as he has invested in a lot of players that went on to become amongst the best in their position if not the best.

I do however share the feeling that Kirschner is not on par, BUT, HM has won Currie Cups, Vodacom Cups, Super Trophies and taken a provincial side that was the worst in SA to a provincial side that dominated the local scene for almost 10 years.

Myself, well I have "coached" a rugby team on playstation to WC glory.
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+1
Nice to read a comment that actually has some credibility behind it
 
Last time I looked, Boks colors were Green and Gold ......... best man, be it that he's player from Pitsonderwater, needs to play in the position so we can wallop the living snot out of the Poms ;)
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
Nobody rates Krusty and for very very good reason, he sucks. A coach should be able to see what player can and cannot do the business and if he can't, well. And I didn't like Jake in the beginning, just like any other Bok coach, they have to grow on me by their actions.
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First off, I was not too happy with HM not selecting Stormers, but let's face it - that is probably the best squad he could announce with all the injuries etc.

I am a Stormers fan, but I don't really have problems with that many bulls in the team, even if we did beat them this weekend.

Zane is a solid fullback, and a specialist one so if HM goes with him it would make sense. Joe would have been my first choice fullback, but I am probably biased. Zane is probably the best fullback in the country. He is solid under the high ball, he runs the most attacking lines when they are on attack and after Elton he breaks the line the most of all the South Africans.

Here is the player stats for this season:
http://www.rugbystats.com.au/rugby/super15/player-stats.html?refresh=1338852508947

Like it or not, if we stop looking through our provincialist glasses you will see that Zane is better than Joe and Lambie in that position. Lambie is probably the best player between the three of them, but for a specialist full back he will probably be last in that list.
 
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