Suicide.....

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The question on my mind today is why do some people go to the ends of the earth to stay young and alive and others just give up?

Isn't living a unhealthy life style (smoking and drinking and not exercising) also a form of slow suicide?

I had a run of bad luck the past few months. But is that enough to drive one to the extreme? If small things make you give up, isn’t it also small things that keeps one going? Just wondering....
 
Because sometimes it doesn't seem like there are any small things to keep you going...
Because you just don't see a way out...
Because you don't have the energy to be more positive...

It's not always rational. In a better state of mind you can have the same things happen and be in the same situation and react totally differently.
 
Sorry, can't help you, way too depressing for a Fri afternoon. The thought of that first ice cold beer of the weekend is the one small thing that's keeping me alive right now.
 
There's so many factors that can contribute to it. Why do some people go like swimming and others don't?
 
good question...cant judge why people commit suicide seeing that I never felt the urge to do so. But guess its all got to do with ones support base, if you have ample friends a big family or just people in general to talk to and by your side through the tough times I guess its not that bad. But on the contary I cant imagine going through some **** alone, and guess thats what drives people over the edge. Some people are just truely alone....and guess that drives the bullet through their mind?
 
smoking is not a form of suicide - i find it enjoyable plus I get to relax outside for 10 minutes every hour - I love it!

drinking is fun too - and some people drink, so they DON'T go crazy and kill themselves...
 
Keeper said:
smoking is not a form of suicide - i find it enjoyable plus I get to relax outside for 10 minutes every hour - I love it!

drinking is fun too - and some people drink, so they DON'T go crazy and kill themselves...
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See that is why I smoke and drink! All hell would break loose if you take away my beer and sigs! :D
 
gdiza said:
They need to find something useful to do with their lives.

I became a fire fighter ;)
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We do not always see eye to eye, but I have to agree with gdiza here.

It may not be a cure for something like depression, but the surefire way to feel better, is to do something for someone else.

It takes our attention away from our own problems and it also makes us aware that there are people out there with MUCH worse circumstances than our own :)
 
blunomore said:
We do not always see eye to eye, but I have to agree with gdiza here.

It may not be a cure for something like depression, but the surefire way to feel better, is to do something for someone else.

It takes our attention away from our own problems and it also makes us aware that there are people out there with MUCH worse circumstances than our own :)
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You don't understand, though - you just can't summon up the energy to care. Or to actually make plans to do something different. You can't imagine feeling better. And if you did get out there and see how much worse off some people are, you'd probably feel even worse that the world is such a terrible place.

(I'm somewhat conflating depression and suicidal thoughts, here - they don't always go together. And I'm seing it more from the point of view where you just feel life isn't worth going on with, as opposed to a disaster scenario like you've just found out you failed matric and you're pregnant and your dog just died; that's a whole different type of thing)
 
asking someone with depression to get out of it himself is like asking a athlete without a legg to run the comrades. It is doable but not easy.
 
I don't think that it's the "small things" that drive people to suicide.........
 
CathJ said:
You don't understand, though - you just can't summon up the energy to care. Or to actually make plans to do something different. You can't imagine feeling better. And if you did get out there and see how much worse off some people are, you'd probably feel even worse that the world is such a terrible place.

(I'm somewhat conflating depression and suicidal thoughts, here - they don't always go together. And I'm seing it more from the point of view where you just feel life isn't worth going on with, as opposed to a disaster scenario like you've just found out you failed matric and you're pregnant and your dog just died; that's a whole different type of thing)
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I was simply talking from experience, Jewelbox: Around 2000, I suffered from PTSS and it lead to clinical depression. The psychologist I saw, kept on advising me to go out, socialise and to do things for others. If you wait to feel better before you take that step, it will never happen. However, if you do it even though you do not want to, you are likely to gradually feel better about things.
 
blunomore said:
I was simply talking from experience, Jewelbox: Around 2000, I suffered from PTSS and it lead to clinical depression. The psychologist I saw, kept on advising me to go out, socialise and to do things for others. If you wait to feel better before you take that step, it will never happen. However, if you do it even though you do not want to, you are likely to gradually feel better about things.
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I'm not denying that social contact will help, just that it's often incredibly difficult to take that first step, because you just don't see that any god can come out of it - you're convinced that it'll just turn out badly and won't be worth the effort. Which is where it helps to have someone encouraging and helping you through it, to give you that push you need to get out there. It's very difficult to give yourself that push.
 
Suicide is the easy way out - living is much harder. Maybe some people just don't want to cope with things and something snaps.

I cannot fatthom why anyone would want to end things. If sure if you asked a suicide survisor you might get a better picture of why.
 
I have no sympathy or empathy or anything along the lines of kindness for people who kill themselves. They are just being pathetic cowards.
 
Pooky : want to walk in their shoes for 2 years??

I challenge you to cope with mind crushing clinical depression for 2 years and not think of killing yourself at least 1000 times.

Before you make your immature sweeping pointless statements, actually try and contemplate WHAT might cause someone to kill themselves. You've lived a priviledged life, so you would have NO idea how difficult life can be for a large segment of the population.
 
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