Suicide.....

[DJ...]

I have no sympathy or empathy or anything along the lines of kindness for people who kill themselves. They are just being pathetic cowards.

Clearly you've been protected from dealing with the real world then and have been fortunate enough not to know anyone personally who has committed suicide. Would you be saying the same thing if a family member committed suicide following them going through a tragic ordeal?

 

[wikus]

They need to find something useful to do with their lives.

I became a fire fighter

+1
Sometimes all that is needed is just a drastic life change.
I made two drastic changes to my life in the past six months and I feel WAAAY better about myself than I felt before.
One of those was to stop smoking, and the other I am reluctant to share

 

[kronoSX]

Clearly you've been protected from dealing with the real world then and have been fortunate enough not to know anyone personally who has committed suicide. Would you be saying the same thing if a family member committed suicide following them going through a tragic ordeal?

thanks man for clearing that up.
aLSO YOU DONT HAVE TO BE DEPRESSED to commit suicide..seriaaazz

 

[PCW]

Most normal people have thought about it. A shrink once told me this. If you haven't thought about it it's unusual.

 

[kronoSX]

a question though do you think all suicide thoughts are depression related?

no not all of them.

 

[kronoSX]

Most normal people have thought about it. A shrink once told me this. If you haven't thought about it it's unusual.

I must admit i thought about it many many times but my mind is strong

 

[Serqet]

Alright so please explain to me an instance where someone isn't depressed and commits suicide dablakmark8? I mean a previously healthy person by psychiatric standards. Not people with mental illnesses.

 

[Serqet]

I know what you mean blunomore. I'm lucky that i didn't have fluctuating mood swings. I just had a deep sense of depression and lack of motivation to do anything.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Pooky : when you get a clue, come back, but the adults are discussing a serious topic that impacts alot of people..... so go and do your homework like a good little boy.

 

[blunomore]

Pooky : when you get a clue, come back, but the adults are discussing a serious topic that impacts alot of people..... so go and do your homework like a good little boy.

LOL Toxic! I can see the Shaik thread got you upset? Or was it the Dalai Lama thread?

Jokes aside, I agree with your remarks @ Pooky.

 

[ToxicBunny]

blu.. oddly enough neither of those did .... it was Pooky's daft remarks.... I've been there, and I don't take it lightly when someone brushes if off like it was just a passing phase.. I battled through it and came out the other side after making LOTS of sacrifices and unfortunately hurting ALOT of people.

 

[blunomore]

I battled through it and came out the other side after making LOTS of sacrifices and unfortunately hurting ALOT of people.

Sure, I understand. Same here. Depression is nobody's fault, but I still feel bad knowing the effect mine had on my mother.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Yeah....oddly enough it was the hurting my family bit that actually ultimately dragged me out of it...

 

[kronoSX]

Alright so please explain to me an instance where someone isn't depressed and commits suicide dablakmark8? I mean a previously healthy person by psychiatric standards. Not people with mental illnesses.

ok you asked right..mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...ok here goes.Someone wants to shoot your sister,you jump in and take the bullet,suicide right

 

[DJ...]

Alright so please explain to me an instance where someone isn't depressed and commits suicide dablakmark8? I mean a previously healthy person by psychiatric standards. Not people with mental illnesses.

My sis committed suicide because of an ordeal she went through. She wasn't depressed as in a feeling sorry for herself way, she just couldn't come to grips with living with the memories of what had happened. I still to this day don't believe she was depressed but I might just be fooling myself in all honesty.

I also tend to agree that it requires an element of depression for a person to take their own life - happy people just don't strike me as the suicidal type. However I have heard (via the grapevine) of an elderly woman who took her own life after her husband passed away. It wasn't that she was depressed at all, just that they agreed that the first to go would prompt the other to "join them". Like a disturbingly romantic pact of sorts. But that's an exception to the rule, I suppose.

Yeah....oddly enough it was the hurting my family bit that actually ultimately dragged me out of it...

I reckon most of us have been there before. What's great about hitting rock bottom is getting out of rock bottom, because every step you take is in the right direction and feels good. However that's the easiest thing in the world to say in hindsight - a lot more difficult to put into practice at the time and family are usually the ones to help you through then. They're usually the first you hurt and the last to leave your side...

 

[blunomore]

ok you asked right..mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...ok here goes.Someone wants to shoot your sister,you jump in and take the bullet,suicide right

No, you did not want to die, you risked your life to defend someone. It is not suicide.

 

[DJ...]

ok you asked right..mmmmmmmmmmmmmm...ok here goes.Someone wants to shoot your sister,you jump in and take the bullet,suicide right

Yes and no. I think what's being discussed here is traditional suicide though. Merely putting your own life on the line for someone in my books doesn't really count as suicide. Think of war time - soldiers are risking life and limb every day - if they're killed in the line of duty, do you consider that suicide?

 

[blunomore]

My sis committed suicide because of an ordeal she went through. She wasn't depressed as in a feeling sorry for herself way, she just couldn't come to grips with living with the memories of what had happened. I still to this day don't believe she was depressed but I might just be fooling myself in all honesty...

I did not suffer the same ordeal, but I understand what you say about her. In many cases, depression can be brought on by PTSS.

 

[I am Penguin]

If you kill yourself, you're not the one that's hurt. Everyone around you is and you screw up other people's lives by killing yourself. It's selfish, full stop.

Do U for one moment think that the person with a emotional state and mental strife consider that he/she/it is selfish? More than ever they believe by killing themselves they will actually do someone else or close family a favour.

First grow up and then comment. Obviously you never ended up with a situation where your mind completely overides any reason or logical thoughts.

 

[DJ...]

Obviously you never ended up with a situation where your mind completely overides any reason or logical thoughts.

Most around here are fully aware that it suffers from a lack of reason and logical thought in the first place...