Suicide.....

[cryptic1]

Pooky : want to walk in their shoes for 2 years??

I challenge you to cope with mind crushing clinical depression for 2 years and not think of killing yourself at least 1000 times.

Before you make your immature sweeping pointless statements, actually try and contemplate WHAT might cause someone to kill themselves. You've lived a priviledged life, so you would have NO idea how difficult life can be for a large segment of the population.

Well done, could've not said it any better.

 

[scotty777]

I have no sympathy or empathy or anything along the lines of kindness for people who kill themselves. They are just being pathetic cowards.

that is a really disgusting comment pooky, you may have lived a great life where the only real hardships you've had were deciding what to have for supper tomorrow. Have you actually ever been depressed? And i don't mean as in sad, I mean where you feel as though you are at the bottom of a dark pit, and you feel as though there is no one around you to help.

Pooky : want to walk in their shoes for 2 years??

I challenge you to cope with mind crushing clinical depression for 2 years and not think of killing yourself at least 1000 times.

Before you make your immature sweeping pointless statements, actually try and contemplate WHAT might cause someone to kill themselves. You've lived a priviledged life, so you would have NO idea how difficult life can be for a large segment of the population.

Amen brother! I've been there before, as most of you would know...

Last year I went into depression. Honestly, I'm surprised i got out of it...

When you feel as though you hit rock bottom, it's so tough to actually talk to anyone. My family didn't notice that i was going through depression and I just didn't see any reason to tell them because I thought they would never understand.

The way you think is heavily distorted when you go through depression, and so where people who haven't actually been threw it they simply can't see why people would go to the lengths of killing yourself.

You see, the problem with me was that I isolated myself from society, I did however post a thread on the forum about my decision to take my life to ease the pain. Obviously I pulled through, but that only because 3 days after I posted that thread, I completely broke down, I was crying for hours and my parents sent me to the doctors etc... So I was on anti-depressants for 4-6 months, then I stopped(as per the doctors orders).

If you hate me because I went through a period of depression, then fine, do so, but that's like saying you hate fish, but you've never tried it.

 

[Serqet]

I'm not denying that social contact will help, just that it's often incredibly difficult to take that first step, because you just don't see that any god can come out of it - you're convinced that it'll just turn out badly and won't be worth the effort. Which is where it helps to have someone encouraging and helping you through it, to give you that push you need to get out there. It's very difficult to give yourself that push.

Not only that CathJ. When you are depressed the last thing you want to do is be around people. You just want to be alone and wallow in your own emotions. It's impossible to get out of bed, or put some clothes on, or brush your hair, let alone think about going outside the house and having to face people who just don't understand.

 

[cryptic1]

Not only that CathJ. When you are depressed the last thing you want to do is be around people. You just want to be alone and wallow in your own emotions. It's impossible to get out of bed, or put some clothes on, or brush your hair, let alone think about going outside the house and having to face people who just don't understand.

I can relate to that too, been of meds completely for a month now after four years.

 

[Serqet]

Similar thing happened to me Gdiza. Happened around 2000. I woke up one morning after being depressed for a while and i just couldn't function. It was as if my body just shut down. I was shaking and crying uncontrollably and i just felt at a complete loss like nothing was going to make it better. Went to the doctor and he put me on anti-depressants and made me go see somebody. My problem was that quite a number of stressful things had happened to me over the prior couple of years and i hadn't dealt with any of them. I just pushed it all under the carpet so to speak and eventually it all came out at once and i just couldn't handle it. It was the darkest periord of my life and i can completely understand how a person can hit such a low and think there is no way out and want to rather end things so they don't have to feel the pain anymore.

I know a lot of people say it's cowardly and you are leaving behind people who care about you. But i don't think you see that when you are that depressed. You think the world would be a better place without you. Depression is a dangerous thing. The power of the mind is astonishing. It can really convince you of anything when something like that happens.

 

[Serqet]

I can relate to that too, been of meds completely for a month now after four years.

Yip the last thing i wanted to do was be around ANYONE when i was depressed. I pretty much stayed in my room. It's debilitating yet you feel in a comfort zone which is somewhat satisfying to you at the time.

Doctor advised me to quit my job as the stress of working was just making the whole thing worse. So i did. Was just an awful time. I take my hat off to anyone who is man or woman enough to say this is what happened to me and this is how i came out of it. Society seems to frown on people who suffer with depression as though they are just being babies about life. It's really not that simple.

So thank you for starting this thread as i usually don't talk about this.

 

[scotty777]

Yip the last thing i wanted to do was be around ANYONE when i was depressed. I pretty much stayed in my room. It's debilitating yet you feel in a comfort zone which is somewhat satisfying to you at the time.

Doctor advised me to quit my job as the stress of working was just making the whole thing worse. So i did. Was just an awful time. I take my hat off to anyone who is man or woman enough to say this is what happened to me and this is how i came out of it. Society seems to frown on people who suffer with depression as though they are just being babies about life. It's really not that simple.

So thank you for starting this thread as i usually don't talk about this.

I have to agree... Depression simply is not something you can joke about. When i went through it, i felt my whole world was being ripped apart, and then paranoia kicked in. However, I'm glad my parents finally realised I had a problem, because I didn't. I was so engrossed in my own emotional state that I wasn't eating, I wasn't talking to anyone and I almost failed my 2nd term of gr11 at school because I just couldn't study.


There is one thing that really hurts me though, when someone calls me an emo. I don't know about you guys, but i did not choose to be depressed, hell, I think i would rather die then go back to that place ever again. For those people who simulate depression and try to act as though they lives are so bad, just take a trip through a truly depressed persons mind and tell me if you would very want to actually fell like that.

Hey Serqet, I must agree with you last sentence though. I generally try and never talk about it as I get tears forming and it just starts to get to much for me. it's far more comfortable talking online here then to anyone in person.

 

[Serqet]

Society simply doesn't comprehend it and therefore you get labelled all sorts of things. That is probably to a large extent why i don't talk about it with many people.

It must have been hard trying to deal with that at school. It's a tough little society as it is with everyone trying to be cool and prove your worth.

I agree with you about it being easier to talk about it online. I think because you don't feel so judged on here and if you do get a scathing comment it's a lot easier to brush off as you don't really know the person on the other side of the monitor.

 

[scotty777]

Society simply doesn't comprehend it and therefore you get labelled all sorts of things. That is probably to a large extent why i don't talk about it with many people.

It must have been hard trying to deal with that at school. It's a tough little society as it is with everyone trying to be cool and prove your worth.

I agree with you about it being easier to talk about it online. I think because you don't feel so judged on here and if you do get a scathing comment it's a lot easier to brush off as you don't really know the person on the other side of the monitor.

Well, thing is, people should try and understand more instead of just say that you should think of happy things...

as for school, I would go to the bath rooms and just cry, for the whole of break, I would cry. The real problem is that people can see you are in a state and all they can say is "cheer up dude" and "life isn't that bad" but when you are depressed, you just can't cheer up, you just can't break free from your world of pain.

I'm thankful i made it out of my "state" alive, I'm much better off now, but the fact that depression will always be apart of me scares me. I can't remove the memories of it all. However, I must comment that the antidepressants were really kark as I just lost all emotion, I wasn't sad but i wasn't happy and I felt like I had lost all emotions. I'm glad the depression has gone into rescission(I say this because I don't know if it will make a return).

 

[Serqet]

Yea i hated the anti-depressants too. You feel completely numb and almost as though you are not alive. Walking zombie was how i felt so i wasn't on them for very long. I decided i'd rather feel what it is i need to feel and get it out of my system then feel nothing.

 

[scotty777]

Yea i hated the anti-depressants too. You feel completely numb and almost as though you are not alive. Walking zombie was how i felt so i wasn't on them for very long. I decided i'd rather feel what it is i need to feel and get it out of my system then feel nothing.

My doctor gave me some to help with the depression then he progressively gave me weaker ones and told me to take less doses... He felt it was dangerous to have me taking antidepressants at my age(17), but i was a hazard to myself if I didn't take them. So I took them for 6 months until I didn't need them anymore. The good news is that my marks had shot up as a result of taking them.

 

[kronoSX]

The question on my mind today is why do some people go to the ends of the earth to stay young and alive and others just give up?

Isn't living a unhealthy life style (smoking and drinking and not exercising) also a form of slow suicide?

I had a run of bad luck the past few months. But is that enough to drive one to the extreme? If small things make you give up, isn’t it also small things that keeps one going? Just wondering....

its true that everyone reacts to bad things in different ways,but let me tell you about my best friend who has been with me all my life.He finally succumbed to suicide after trying it twice before and failing.He was not a suicidal person and would never dream of killing himself,but one event in his life,a long time girlfriend that he was with from schooldays left him.

He had family/friends support,my support and therapy but non of that worked.I understand now why people say never say never until you are really there in that deep black pit.Any mind can go.Its a split decision which feels like an eternity.......

MY best friend is gone and left us a suicide note which his mother keeps.Its been 9 years and i still remember the words in that letter.

all in all it comes down to you and no one else.think big,think wise and socialize

 

[Morgoth]

a question though do you think all suicide thoughts are depression related?

 

[scotty777]

a question though do you think all suicide thoughts are depression related?

well I can't see a happy person skip to the gun and shoot him/herself.

 

[Serqet]

erm ya you have to be depressed in order to want to end your life.

 

[Pooky]

If you kill yourself, you're not the one that's hurt. Everyone around you is and you screw up other people's lives by killing yourself. It's selfish, full stop.

 

[Dark Agent]

If you kill yourself, you're not the one that's hurt. Everyone around you is and you screw up other people's lives by killing yourself. It's selfish, full stop.

 

[scotty777]

If you kill yourself, you're not the one that's hurt. Everyone around you is and you screw up other people's lives by killing yourself. It's selfish, full stop.

pooky, come on dude, this thread is about how out of your mind you actually are when you commit suicide. you have to understand that when you are that depressed you start to get consumed by your own emotions. you lose touch with reality so to speak and it comes to a point where you just can't take it any more. I know it's selfish, but when you are in that state, you don't stop and think "hmmm, well i might hurt some people here". all you care about is making the suffering stop. Pooky, you gotta understand that depression isn't something people can just stop. Depression is a living hell, it's was the worst experience I've ever had. you basically become a prisoner of your own mind, so much so that that light at the end of the tunnel gets to dim to see.

People that commit suicide don't say "hmmm... my schedule is free this thursday, I think i should kill myself, I'm feeling down". No, rather, they act on impulse, and they usually wright a letter as that's the last piece of reality that have left.

Pooky, I hate to say it, but you are a fool. You've grown up in a sheltered environment and haven't experienced the true horrors the mind can create. I've gone through depression, and that was something I'm adamant on never going through ever again and this is only depression, I can't fathom what people that have schizophrenia or really bad paranoia go through... Pooky, a little advise, if you haven't experienced something, then don't comment, just shut up.

 

[Keeper]

 

[blunomore]

I'm not denying that social contact will help, just that it's often incredibly difficult to take that first step, because you just don't see that any god can come out of it - you're convinced that it'll just turn out badly and won't be worth the effort. Which is where it helps to have someone encouraging and helping you through it, to give you that push you need to get out there. It's very difficult to give yourself that push.

True. A support network is very, very valuable.

I have no sympathy or empathy or anything along the lines of kindness for people who kill themselves. They are just being pathetic cowards.

Pooky, you are young (18? 19?) and while there are indeed young people suffering from depression, clearly you have never experienced it.

Maybe you should re-consider being so outspoken about something you do not know anything about. It seems you are confusing depression with 'feeling blue' - they are worlds apart.

Try reading up about this before dishing out opinions.

Yea i hated the anti-depressants too. You feel completely numb and almost as though you are not alive. Walking zombie was how i felt so i wasn't on them for very long. I decided i'd rather feel what it is i need to feel and get it out of my system then feel nothing.

I was the opposite. The antidepressants helped with wildly fluctuating emotios, which can be difficult to deal with, for you and the people around you.