Telkom bumps up ADSL caps

sandmanm34 said:
Not at all, you getting 50% more product on the 2GB to 3GB package and 67% more on the 3GB to 5GB package. Unless I've mis read the article that seems reasonable...
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Not really... Just because it is better doesnt mean its reasonable... If you start of with a salary of R100 a month... And you get a salary increase to R150, would you say that is reasonable... NOOOOO, because the minimum slaray in SA is above R1000... :D
 
SlyFly said:
Not really... Just because it is better doesnt mean its reasonable... If you start of with a salary of R100 a month... And you get a salary increase to R150, would you say that is reasonable... NOOOOO, because the minimum slaray in SA is above R1000... :D
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Agreed... I didn't say we not getting raped, I just said Telkom wearing a condom now...:D
 
There is however some good news for Telkom ADSL subscribers.TelkomInternet all access 2GB and 3GB standard offering bandwidth customers will see their monthly usage limits increase to 3GB and 5GB respectively.
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I bet all those ISP's who were stupid or desperate enough to sign Telkom's new wholesale contracts (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/8366.html) can like to be pretty p*ssed right now. How very very sneaky of our beloved Telkom, to lock the competitors into long-term contracts mere WEEKS before ripping the carpet out from under the competition. Insider trading? Anti-competitive behaviour? NooooOOooOoooOooo. Surely not...

Die, Telkom, die. Make it soon. They shoot horses, don't they?

Juice
 
You can talk percentages all you like but at the end of the day the South African consumer is still paying to much for broadband access and telkom's tactics remain to tie unwitting consumers to 2 year contracts with promises of sunshine and rainbows.:mad:
They had a chance to decrease the cost of fixed line rentals, increase their market share, and give a huge boost to broadband penetration in SA, with all the hype of SEACOM still ringing in our ears, and promises from our holier than thou president that broadband access costs would decrease, still fresh in our minds.
Instead they increase the price of line rental and only increase the usage limits for consumers using them as their ISP by 1GB and 2GB respectively
Why did they even do an 8Mbps trial if the only person who'll ever use it is their CEO, Ruben September?:confused:

Till the day that we have a choice in fixed line rental services, we can expect telkom to use their monopoly to take us for everything we've got. Wireless broadband access overtook fixed line adsl in the blink of an eye. Why? Because even though its slower, less reliable and cap is more expensive, the process for signing up for the service is much less painful and time consuming, and most importantly costs less.
This wireless revolution in SA is completely the opposite to the trend of the rest of the world, and telkom still hasn't woken up to the fact that they have only themselves to blame for HSDPA overtaking ADSL.

I predict the real consumer champion will emerge in the form of ISP's who have finally shed their dependence on telkom for wholesale bandwidth, and will increase their consumer base with innovative packages like bundled services and uncapped accounts for below R900. Neotel is well positioned to be the one who starts the price wars, and every consumer is looking to jump ship for a better deal.:cool:
Telkom on the other hand can stick their little 1 and 2 GB/pm extra where the sun dont shine.
 
Juice said:
I bet all those ISP's who were stupid or desperate enough to sign Telkom's new wholesale contracts (http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/8366.html) can like to be pretty p*ssed right now. How very very sneaky of our beloved Telkom, to lock the competitors into long-term contracts mere WEEKS before ripping the carpet out from under the competition. Insider trading? Anti-competitive behaviour? NooooOOooOoooOooo. Surely not...

Die, Telkom, die. Make it soon. They shoot horses, don't they?

Juice
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No... you got it all wrong... this cap increase has to do with the long term contracts. So if the ISP's did sign these contracts then will able to compete with TelkomSA's new rates
 
MurderFace said:
I predict the real consumer champion will emerge in the form of ISP's who have finally shed their dependence on telkom for wholesale bandwidth, and will increase their consumer base with innovative packages like bundled services and uncapped accounts for below R900. Neotel is well positioned to be the one who starts the price wars, and every consumer is looking to jump ship for a better deal.:cool:
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:sick::sick: no, i just want data, screw any bundle deals

NOT without coverage!
 
Why do I feel really green right now? :sick:

Thanks for nothing, Telkom! :mad:
 
Nerfherder said:
No... you got it all wrong... this cap increase has to do with the long term contracts. So if the ISP's did sign these contracts then will able to compete with TelkomSA's new rates
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I'm not so sure. Let's say someone signed the 5-year contract. They'd get an 18% discount on the bandwidth they can provide. Now, we know the margins are tight, so they can apply this discount in a number of ways:

1. Take the discount as extra profit (1Gb for R80)
2. Pass the discount on to their customers, effectively bringing the price of their own bandwidth down by up to 18% (1Gb for R65.60)
3. Increase the bandwidth cap for their customers at no extra charge (1.2Gb for R80)

If you compare this with what Telkom Internet themselves are able to do, you'll see that Telkom is able to bump 2Gb to 3Gb (a 50% increase at no extra cost) and 3Gb to 5Gb (a 66% increase at no extra cost). Clearly TelkomInternet is able to price more freely out of their internal agreements with SAIX than other bandwidth providers. And not only that, SAIX has now locked their other customers into an even less profitable and competitive contract. If I'd locked myself into that 18% discount and then two weeks later saw Telkom's own ISP offerring bandwidth at discounts of between 33% and 40%, I'd be p*ssed.

It is also interesting to note that Telkom didn't do anything about the measly 1Gb accounts. Care to guess why? I'd guess that those accounts are the basic default cap for the far more populous but far less tech-savvy users who don't know any better and Telkom feels that it would probably adversely affect the over-all income and skew cross-subsidisation if they killed this golden goose. You'd think they could at least have given these poor people a reprieve and even dropped the price a little, but they chose not to. You could perhaps speculate that these poor people are being fleeced so that Telkom internet could add more bandwidth at no cost to the other brackets. The contributions of the many subsidise the excesses of the few, as it were.

Frankly, it makes me quite sick. See my signature for more information.

Juice
 
When does TELKOM actually cap?

If for example you reach your cap during a session on the 31st of the month, do you suddenly find you cannot access international sites during that session?

Does a new month start at midnight of the 1st?
 
chutzpah44 said:
When does TELKOM actually cap?

If for example you reach your cap during a session on the 31st of the month, do you suddenly find you cannot access international sites during that session?

Does a new month start at midnight of the 1st?
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exactly at midnight between the last day of the month and the first of the new month. If you use up your cap before then you cannot access any international.
 
I actually cant believe they are wanting an increase in the tariffs. All this talk about seacom lead to big expectations of decreasing the margin between us & international standards.

Telkom must think we are idiots & I think they are forgeting that they dont run a monopoly anymore. I wasnt sure what to do after my telkom adsl contract but i think this announcement has hit the nail in the coffin.
Neotel is looking pretty decent right now & my contract with Telkom is nearing the end. Seems like just in time!
 
wHiTe*LiGhTnInG said:
i was thinking,, is there anyone out there that could tell us a close average on how much telkom has to pay for this international bandwidth,,we could then work it out on how much they over charging us.

cant anyone work a plan to get the amount they pay the company or group for this bandwidth?

maybe someone has a very high friend up in telkom expenses department...lol.

we say telkom is over charging us, but for all we know overseas might be the ones who are overcharging telkom, and here we are saying overseas is all peachie with prices, mean time they the ones that might be ripping ol south africa off..lol
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Majority of traffic will stay local so it won't really cost Telkom anything. I would be quite happy with Telkom keeping 3GB accounts at 3GB and implementing proper bandwidth management that your 3GB international only gets used for international traffic and your +30GB local only gets used for local traffic.
 
alt21 said:
Majority of traffic will stay local so it won't really cost Telkom anything. I would be quite happy with Telkom keeping 3GB accounts at 3GB and implementing proper bandwidth management that your 3GB international only gets used for international traffic and your +30GB local only gets used for local traffic.
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Never going to happen. Quite happy to do my own bandwidth management. And 5gb (with soft cap) is much better than 3gb.
 
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