The Banting/LCHF Thread

Hi. So I am considering trying the Banting eating plan. Complete noob.
I have no idea even where to begin. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
maumau said:
You could visit http://realmealrevolution.com for an overview. There's a book out by the same name.
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Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Starting reading the last 2000+ posts - very interesting (albeit a bit overwhelming).
I am looking for something that summarises the rules etc in one place.
So I will give the website and book a try.
Thanks again.
 
There's a green, an orange and a red list. That's what I liked at first.
 
I will definitely get the book.
But in the meantime:
1. What are the generally accepted portion sizes - is the food weighed or calories counted or what?
2. Is there a rule of how many times to eat a day? I generally only eat twice a day.
3. Is it expensive to follow this "lifestyle"? There will be 3 of us following it - my mom, my wife and myself.
4. Are there any general rules of thumb what a breakfast, lunch or supper is made up of?
5. Are you guys actually satisfied or do you feel like something is missing?
6. The high fat side of it - how does it affect cholesterol?
7. I have been on a number of "lifestyle changes" (unfortunately never stuck) but one thing they had in common - constipation. How do you overcome this?
8. Is exercise a necessity?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: 9. How is Banting and Tim Noakes linked?
10. Oh and any ideas for cost effective meals?
 
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Dianysis said:
I will definitely get the book.
But in the meantime:
1. What are the generally accepted portion sizes - is the food weighed or calories counted or what?
2. Is there a rule of how many times to eat a day? I generally only eat twice a day.
3. Is it expensive to follow this "lifestyle"? There will be 3 of us following it - my mom, my wife and myself.
4. Are there any general rules of thumb what a breakfast, lunch or supper is made up of?
5. Are you guys actually satisfied or do you feel like something is missing?
6. The high fat side of it - how does it affect cholesterol?
7. I have been on a number of "lifestyle changes" (unfortunately never stuck) but one thing they had in common - constipation. How do you overcome this?
8. Is exercise a necessity?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: 9. How is Banting and Tim Noakes linked?
10. Oh and any ideas for cost effective meals?
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1. What are the generally accepted portion sizes - is the food weighed or calories counted or what?
-Theories differ. Some say no, because you'll eat to fullness and will drop weight that way. For me and a lot of others, the only way to see consistent weightloss was eating to/under our Macros daily.

2. Is there a rule of how many times to eat a day? I generally only eat twice a day.
-Nope. I usually eat twice a day too.

3. Is it expensive to follow this "lifestyle"? There will be 3 of us following it - my mom, my wife and myself.
-Can be. It's a lot of meat and fresh produce, and you'll want to be eating the best you can afford. On the other hand, you'll be spending less on carb stuff, alcohol and dessert-type foods.

4. Are there any general rules of thumb what a breakfast, lunch or supper is made up of?
Nope. Just stick to the accepted foods.

5. Are you guys actually satisfied or do you feel like something is missing?
I get cravings once in a while. I did stupid stuff like go off the diet for a few days at a time. Now I have a cheat meat once every week or two weeks. Trust me, you'll adapt and either way, the fat fills you up.

6. The high fat side of it - how does it affect cholesterol?
-OMB or mister will fill you in soon I'm sure. Not my area. Suffice to say it the only effects will be positive.

7. I have been on a number of "lifestyle changes" (unfortunately never stuck) but one thing they had in common - constipation. How do you overcome this?
-Eat your fibre.

8. Is exercise a necessity?
No, but the general thing I've seen and experienced is: Diet>Lifting>cardio. You don't ned exercise to lose weight, but you may want it later on. If you do, just know that you can exercise without needing excess carbs.


9. How is Banting and Tim Noakes linked?
-He came out with a book on it. First big splash of publicity in South Africa for a ketogenic diet. They aren't 'linked' per se.

10. Oh and any ideas for cost effective meals?
- Eggs. Bacon. Spinach. Broccoli. Chicken.
 
Randhir said:
1. What are the generally accepted portion sizes - is the food weighed or calories counted or what?
-Theories differ. Some say no, because you'll eat to fullness and will drop weight that way. For me and a lot of others, the only way to see consistent weightloss was eating to/under our Macros daily.

2. Is there a rule of how many times to eat a day? I generally only eat twice a day.
-Nope. I usually eat twice a day too.

3. Is it expensive to follow this "lifestyle"? There will be 3 of us following it - my mom, my wife and myself.
-Can be. It's a lot of meat and fresh produce, and you'll want to be eating the best you can afford. On the other hand, you'll be spending less on carb stuff, alcohol and dessert-type foods.

4. Are there any general rules of thumb what a breakfast, lunch or supper is made up of?
Nope. Just stick to the accepted foods.

5. Are you guys actually satisfied or do you feel like something is missing?
I get cravings once in a while. I did stupid stuff like go off the diet for a few days at a time. Now I have a cheat meat once every week or two weeks. Trust me, you'll adapt and either way, the fat fills you up.

6. The high fat side of it - how does it affect cholesterol?
-OMB or mister will fill you in soon I'm sure. Not my area. Suffice to say it the only effects will be positive.

7. I have been on a number of "lifestyle changes" (unfortunately never stuck) but one thing they had in common - constipation. How do you overcome this?
-Eat your fibre.

8. Is exercise a necessity?
No, but the general thing I've seen and experienced is: Diet>Lifting>cardio. You don't ned exercise to lose weight, but you may want it later on. If you do, just know that you can exercise without needing excess carbs.


9. How is Banting and Tim Noakes linked?
-He came out with a book on it. First big splash of publicity in South Africa for a ketogenic diet. They aren't 'linked' per se.

10. Oh and any ideas for cost effective meals?
- Eggs. Bacon. Spinach. Broccoli. Chicken.
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maumau said:
What Randhir said.
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Thank you very much taking the time to answer - much appreciated.
One more question if you don't mind - you refer to "macro's" in the answer to question 1.
That is fat, protein and carbs right?
Now how do I go about finding out what amounts I need for LCHF?
 
Dianysis said:
Thank you very much taking the time to answer - much appreciated.
One more question if you don't mind - you refer to "macro's" in the answer to question 1.
That is fat, protein and carbs right?
Now how do I go about finding out what amounts I need for LCHF?
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Depends on your goals and current body stats.

Compared to the diet recommended by the US Food and Drug Administration, the macros in a ketogenic diet are high fat, moderate (adequate) protein, and extremely low in carbohydrates.

How do these 3 macronutrients give energy to our body? The most accurate way to find out how much fat, protein, and carbs you personally need is to put your data into the keto calculator. Remember to recalculate your data once in a while after your bodyweight has changed, e.g. once a month.

Alcohol is also a macronutrient and it may have applications in explosive exercises, however, due to the small, infrequent levels in which it's consumed, it is rarely referred to when calculating nutritional goals. That's not to say that alcohol can't affect ketosis. Refer to http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq#wiki_can_i_still_drink_alcohol.2Fcoffee.3F.
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xcaliber said:
I doubt that. Every bit of research I read has stated your body will use what ever resources there is to get energy. Be it fat or muscle.

That's why people who go on low cal diet lose weight but pick it up after a short time since it was initial muscle loss.
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The answer, of course, is that is does not burn muscle as we discussed in the previous post. It was only a myth.
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The author, Dr Jason Fung, is a practising medical doctor who specialized in kidney medicine. It looks like he now runs his own clinic specializing in diabetes - with great success. I think he knows what he is talking about. I'd rather listen to a practising doctor than fitness coach who regurgitates the same old myths.

Source 1
Source 2
 
Think my body is adjusting to the change in diet.
Breakfast: 1 cup of tea
Lunch: 1 cup of tea
Supper: Fried up a steak, 4 strips of bacon and warmed up some leftover italian sausage. Made a dip with double cream yoghurt and tomato salsa, and drizzled a balsamic reduction over the steak. Ate about half of this (until I was no longer hungry).. and keeping the rest for tomorrow.

Also cut up some chicken fillet and marinated in soya sauce, worcester sauce and chinese 5 spice.. gonna fry that up on Wednesday.
 
Been on this Banting thing for a few weeks. Weight on the scale hasn't changed much but clothes feel soooo different.

Read quite a bit and appreciate the contributions so far.

What do you folks drink? Water is NB but do you drink anything else?

I got some coconut water from woolies. But just sip on that now and again. I drink lots of full cream milk.

Any other options?
 
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