The Battery Thread (Solar / Inverter)

Can't find any info on the internet though :/ Can't even find the raylite website.
Because not every brand is a manufacturer or company, some are brands within other brands that are the manufacturer. e.g Mecer, Kodak, Axpert and other brands are Voltronic brands, there are probably very few battery manufacturers but how many brands do we have?

Raylite is an old battery brand though, not one of those that came out of nowhere during loadshedding.
 
Because not every brand is a manufacturer or company, some are brands within other brands that are the manufacturer. e.g Mecer, Kodak, Axpert and other brands are Voltronic brands, there are probably very few battery manufacturers but how many brands do we have?

Raylite is an old battery brand though, not one of those that came out of nowhere during loadshedding.
First National make them, same as excis batteries.

But i think i need to go there today and go see these 230ah " deep cycle" Funny feeling these are high cycle for the price
 
Varta LFS105m ? Anyone know these. Apparently these are pretty good as well. R2550 at local midas.
Varta is the Boss, that's what you get in high end cars. But what AH are they and are they deep cycle, R2250 for a Varta sounds suspiciously too good to be true, unless it's a 50Ah.
 
Varta is the Boss, that's what you get in high end cars. But what AH are they and are they deep cycle, R2250 for a Varta sounds suspiciously too good to be true, unless it's a 50Ah.

I don't know much about Varta batteries other than those in cars and they are one of the best in cars.
 
Varta is the Boss, that's what you get in high end cars. But what AH are they and are they deep cycle, R2250 for a Varta sounds suspiciously too good to be true, unless it's a 50Ah.
105Ah , Model is LFS, R2660 without battery trade in.
Guy sent me a picture as well.

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105Ah , Model is LFS, R2660 without battery trade in.
Guy sent me a picture as well.

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It's a leisure battery not really suited for the solar application, it's basically a deep cycle and cranking battery hybrid. But tell you what, I would take it over the cheap solar batteries on the market. It's very affordable for what it is.

Here's the fact sheet, as you can see there is nowhere in the application where they recommend it for solar and backup applications.
 

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It's a leisure battery not really suited for the solar application, it's basically a deep cycle and cranking battery hybrid. But tell you what, I would take it over the cheap solar batteries on the market. It's very affordable for what it is.

Here's the fact sheet, as you can see there is nowhere in the application where they recommend it for solar and backup applications.
Yeah I also found the spec sheet and thought the same thing. Its definitely not a conventional storage battery for renewables and it doesnt mention cycle ratings anywhere.
 
Yeah I also found the spec sheet and thought the same thing. Its definitely not a conventional storage battery for renewables and it doesnt mention cycle ratings anywhere.
I'm sorry, but no lead technology battery is suitable for renewables.
 
Yup definitely agree there. Its cheaper in the short term to purchase but its hardly an ideal long term solution.
It's also fine for a long term backup solution (deep cycle).
The daily cycles of self-consumption from renewables, though, will murder a lead battery in short order.
 
Before lithium ion became fashionable big Telecoms companies were using First National Battery, they still are even today, that should tell you what you need to know about them.
Eskom were also always using First National Battery, at least way back at Matimba anyway.
 
Its a pity about the shipping regulations around batteries and the lack of older electric cars in SA.
In most countries you can pick up second life Li-x batteries for around $100/kw and sometimes a fair bit cheaper by using second hand EV batteries.
Heck if we could get reasonably priced 18650/21700 cells here it would be simple to add a BMS and build a pack based on that but even those cells are overpriced.

Not EV battery I know, but an interesting test of second hand medical device batteries:

 
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