The BMW 320d Fanboy Thread

Jet-Fighter7700 said:
^^^ how many engines has this person changed?
I mean I know it's called Japan auto, but you could Get BMW JDM engines as well.
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Its probably still on thr original moyors and its gold rated, the n47t motors just dont die. Looking at location probably long distance. Maybe to jhb and back a few times.
 
Nithan15 said:
I used 3 tanks 50ppm then a tank of 10ppm. Most members in the VW TDI forums claim that the lack of Sulphur leads to less lubrication as the Sulphur in the diesel lubricated the fuel pumps and injectors - Personally and this is my personal notice I have not scientifically proven this as yet, car run better on 50ppm than 10ppm.
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This has been a bone if contention with many, at the end of the day it is about preference, some would even fill up on 500pm every so often.
 
FiestaST said:
High mileage BMW 320d 1 year ownership update - (Problems and Cost of maintenance) - Muzi Sambo

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I was thinking of doing one of these with my high mileage 330D I bought last year. I just have to get over my crippling fear of being percieved...
 
Calkem said:
This has been a bone if contention with many, at the end of the day it is about preference, some would even fill up on 500pm every so often.
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It would be a very easy data science exercise. Look at the similar models that are sold in countries or areas where 50ppm or high quality diesel is not widely available and then look at failure rates in those areas.

It's similar I suppose to the old beetles, where the community where very passionate about leaded petrol needing to be used for the valves and rings etc... When LRP fell out of fashion and became more and more difficult to find, I ran mine on unleaded for years without issue, as did most others who were blissfully unaware of the difference. But, if you listen to the forums you get the anoraks who'd siphon their tanks if but a drop of unleaded found its way in there.
 
dont get me wrong, I love people pushing old luxury cars like this to the limit, as its a gamble
problem is when something does break, gearbox, engine or chassis, it will cost a fortune to fix.

totalling out the car easily, if you can find a replacement gearbox or engine.
and the cost? small fortune more than the car is worth.

thats always my question with cars like this, at what stage do you junk it?
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
dont get me wrong, I love people pushing old luxury cars like this to the limit, as its a gamble
problem is when something does break, gearbox, engine or chassis, it will cost a fortune to fix.

totalling out the car easily, if you can find a replacement gearbox or engine.
and the cost? small fortune more than the car is worth.

thats always my question with cars like this, at what stage do you junk it?
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It’s a person to person thing. Whatever illusion makes one think they are winning the car ownership game. My random rule is to junk the car when the average cost to keep the car running over a two year period exceeds half the total instalments of a newer car over 2 years.

I.e. replacement car = R300k to R400k. That’s about R72k in instalments for a year. So if you spend more than R72k over 2 years on your old high miler, it’s time to consider a new(er) car.

The reality though is the R72k is likely more than the sun of the parts of the high miler so it’s hard to even say that it’s a wise decision.
 
Yoztruly said:
It’s a person to person thing. Whatever illusion makes one think they are winning the car ownership game. My random rule is to junk the car when the average cost to keep the car running over a two year period exceeds half the total instalments of a newer car over 2 years.

I.e. replacement car = R300k to R400k. That’s about R72k in instalments for a year. So if you spend more than R72k over 2 years on your old high miler, it’s time to consider a new(er) car.

The reality though is the R72k is likely more than the sun of the parts of the high miler so it’s hard to even say that it’s a wise decision.
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hence why I ask, as in SA we drive the biggest Junk out there, people hanging on to cars so old and decrepit that its insane,
as there are no laws as to when a car is considered unroadworthy, and frequently nobody maintains anything,

so potentially a car that elsewhere in the world would be scrapped, is perfectly usable in the country, even a ancient rust bucket 320d
 
In my opinion, as a car fanatic, if you are worried about spending money on a car, new or old, just buy a Toyota Corrola or a Honda Civic, or better yet, just Uber.

For car people like myself and the video in question, yes it is an expense to keep these older cars, however we also spend hours of our own free time researching them, we are emotionally invested in the activity of keeping these cars alive. My mother for instance could think of nothing worse than going out to the garage and spending even 5 minutes in or around a car for longer than is necessary... Different strokes... However, people need to stop thinking about cars as investment pieces. A "luxury car" be it new or old, is going to be more expensive to drive, insure, maintain, than a comparitive economy car.

My sister is also always worried about the mileage on her 320D because of depreciation, I had to tell her kindly that in the timeframe in which she will be interested in keeping the car, it will never not be depreciating. She likes to keep up with the times and won't keep it for 25 years until it becomes a classic and values might start rising again. You are going to lose money on your car sis, please accept it.

I also would like to point out, that deferred maintenance, or neglect, does not constitute "unreliability". Almost every person I know who has an older car or a car out of motorplan will not prioritise proper maintenance, they will cheap out on services, ignore maintenance guidelines and or noises or signs they need to spend money. How often do we see people driving on bald tyres, or have smoke pouring out the back of a car that is less than 10 years old, which you can only assume is due to the fact that the car in question has never seen an oil change since new. Cars are not cheap, it does not matter which one you buy, if you don't maintain it, or look after it, it will cost you more in the long run.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
hence why I ask, as in SA we drive the biggest Junk out there, people hanging on to cars so old and decrepit that its insane,
as there are no laws as to when a car is considered unroadworthy, and frequently nobody maintains anything,

so potentially a car that elsewhere in the world would be scrapped, is perfectly usable in the country, even a ancient rust bucket 320d
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Ah, you are looking at it from a roadworthy perspective. Then the car should be scrapped as soon as it’s uneconomical to get back to roadworthy.
 
ChrisThomas said:
I also would like to point out, that deferred maintenance, or neglect, does not constitute "unreliability". Almost every person I know who has an older car or a car out of motorplan will not prioritise proper maintenance, they will cheap out on services, ignore maintenance guidelines and or noises or signs they need to spend money. How often do we see people driving on bald tyres, or have smoke pouring out the back of a car that is less than 10 years old, which you can only assume is due to the fact that the car in question has never seen an oil change since new. Cars are not cheap, it does not matter which one you buy, if you don't maintain it, or look after it, it will cost you more in the long run.
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agree with this, but then again, some cars continue to work perfectly if you skip a service or 3,
yes I agree dont do it, and CHANGE the Oil and maintain your car,

but then again people dont maintain things, or look after things properly, some do, and take pride in it,
but many sadly dont,

then there are the manufacturers, that dont build things to last, even if you DO take care of them, like your 320D, sure the engine could go to Mars and still work, but the bodywork, electric windows, central locking? that breaks and never gets fixed.

and then it goes downhill from there.and people dont fix it, and then people think its unreliable.
any car will break, eventually, depending on your and others maintenance.

I actually think when EV's become common, people can treat them like they treat smartphones,
never maintain it, drive it till it breaks, and just junk it when the battery wears out.

also no real maintenance, no oil or VANOS or Fuel system, or Gears or bearings to break.
plug it in to charge at night, drive it until the range goes flat, plug it in and thats about it,

then the greedy manufacturers can go bananas on heated seats subscription, and colour shifting body panels,
and wacky horns, and several other idiotic things, you pay handsomely for.
 
Calkem said:
This has been a bone if contention with many, at the end of the day it is about preference, some would even fill up on 500pm every so often.
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500ppm has more lubricating properties, but if you have a DPF then its not a good idea
 
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