The Bodybuilders Thread: Circuit II

Sabre Wulf said:
:erm:
so you're saying
"Why does everyone seem to have knee issues? I don't?"
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I'm saying a bit of a clicking/creaking and knee pain when pushing heavy doesn't mean you need to give up on leg training all together and that you're a delicate little snowflake who needs ACL reconstructive surgery. Trust me, my knees hurt, my knees click, and if I don't wrap my knees from 140kg squats and up they get sore. But I don't let every little niggle stop me from lifting and making gains.
 
Eedubz said:
I'm saying a bit of a clicking/creaking and knee pain when pushing heavy doesn't mean you need to give up on leg training all together and that you're a delicate little snowflake who needs ACL reconstructive surgery. Trust me, my knees hurt, my knees click, and if I don't wrap my knees from 140kg squats and up they get sore. But I don't let every little niggle stop me from lifting and making gains.
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Do your knees bend the wrong way?
I know enough people who have had this happen to them. Knees are complicated things. Rather be thankful than call everyone snowflakes, unless you're 16 and your balls haven't dropped yet :p

On the subject of squats... who else prefers front squats?
Way better core engagement...

Hows this for a front squat

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Chris Duffins - 500lb
 
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Sabre Wulf said:
That's not bad. Front squats are killer! I want to build my own adapter for the bar to make it steadier.
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I do front squats on one leg day and hack squats on the other. Both are quad killers and I have a love hate affair with both of them.

And front squats I am always busy choking myself with the bar :)
 
Eedubz said:
lol. Isn't this all that really matter? Who cares if you have a PhD or know exactly how muscle fibers synthesize amino acids and grow, if you're making gains and getting the results you're after then that's all that matters really imo.

Always amuses me how natty weekend warriors slag off enhanced lifters and make it sound like they just sit on the couch and pop dbols like smarties and that's all that it takes.
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Enhanced lifters? Let me guess, you are one of those proud steroid users.

If you train natural, then form, technique, weight lifted, volume/reps, etc. has to be as perfect as possible to avoid injuries and perform optimally in the long run.
 
Tikkop said:
If you train natural, then form, technique, weight lifted, volume/reps, etc. has to be as perfect as possible to avoid injuries and perform optimally in the long run.
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And if you're not natural? Can all of that be ignored?
 
Eedubz said:
And if you're not natural? Can all of that be ignored?
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The focal point should be on "as perfectly as possible". Steroid users can get away with improper technique, fewer rest days and other short cuts, cause that is what steroids are designed for.
 
Tikkop said:
The focal point should be on "as perfectly as possible". Steroid users can get away with improper technique, fewer rest days and other short cuts, cause that is what steroids are designed for.
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Eedubz said:
Nah they bend the normal way, like the front legs of a horse, not the hind ones.
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How tall are you?
My boet has the issue - from years of playing squash. He weighs around 100-120kg and 6ft 3 or thereabouts. The ligaments around his knee have stretched a bit and his leg has been known to bend sideways on heavy load including drop-shots on the squash court. Flipping sore and long recovery.
 
Tikkop said:
The focal point should be on "as perfectly as possible". Steroid users can get away with improper technique, fewer rest days and other short cuts, cause that is what steroids are designed for.
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No... steroid pushers have been known to have issues with connecting tissue (ligaments, tendons) where their muscular growth is accelerated but the connecting tissue and skeleton isn't proportional. It's not unusual to tear muscle fibre and connecting tissue as a heavy roid user.
 
Eedubz said:
Always amuses me how natty weekend warriors slag off enhanced lifters and make it sound like they just sit on the couch and pop dbols like smarties and that's all that it takes.
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Bodybuilding is way more than roids and lifting heavy. You know that.
 
APoc184 said:
And front squats I am always busy choking myself with the bar :)
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I don't have issues with the bar on my throat - I slide it forward onto my shoulders with my arms 45-perpendicular to my body. You just have to put up with bruising for a few weeks.
 
I do back squats followed by front squats. I wish I had the mobility to use the under hand grip with front squats.
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CodeMaster said:
I wish I had the mobility to use the under hand grip with front squats.
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Yeah. My shoulders and wrist will just not go that way. Tried it over and over.

I do more of a Gangnam style with my arms crossed in front of me and the bar resting on my collar bone and against my throat.
 
Sabre Wulf said:
How tall are you?
My boet has the issue - from years of playing squash. He weighs around 100-120kg and 6ft 3 or thereabouts. The ligaments around his knee have stretched a bit and his leg has been known to bend sideways on heavy load including drop-shots on the squash court. Flipping sore and long recovery.
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APoc184 said:
Yeah. My shoulders and wrist will just not go that way. Tried it over and over.

I do more of a Gangnam style with my arms crossed in front of me and the bar resting on my collar bone and against my throat.
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I do the same with it rolled slightly forward
 
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