The Bodybuilders Thread: Circuit II

Jeez effed up my back with deadlifts. Excellent lesson don't try to go too heavy to quickly. But I did do a pb of 155kg
 
Gothan said:
Jeez effed up my back with deadlifts. Excellent lesson don't try to go too heavy to quickly. But I did do a pb of 155kg
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Congrats on setting a PB! It's not about the weight: regardless if it was 30Kg or 200Kg, if it's a PB for you, it means YOU are progressing.
I find it essential to have someone watch my form when going for PB's. The moment something is off, they say something or start spotting/assisting. Speedy recovery with the back.
 
EliteOp said:
Congrats on setting a PB! It's not about the weight: regardless if it was 30Kg or 200Kg, if it's a PB for you, it means YOU are progressing.
I find it essential to have someone watch my form when going for PB's. The moment something is off, they say something or start spotting/assisting. Speedy recovery with the back.
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Jip. Problem was I did I rep of 155 and felt something pull. And then idiot that I am, let me try one more. But it did feel amazing. I've been morbidly obese most of my life, so I've been going to the gym for 2 and a half years (still obese but almost 30kg down). So for the next session I'll concentrate on reps to work up the strength and move on
 
Eedubz said:
And if you're not natural? Can all of that be ignored?
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So you don't deny using steroids?

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Yeah, the following posts pretty much confirm it. Why do it? Do you compete?
 
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Emjay said:
So you don't deny using steroids?

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Yeah, the following posts pretty much confirm it. Why do it? Do you compete?
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To not be average.

I am planning on competing at the beginning of 2018. I was prepping for the Boksburg Classic this past weekend but pulled out of the show.
 
Eedubz said:
To not be average.

I am planning on competing at the beginning of 2018. I was prepping for the Boksburg Classic this past weekend but pulled out of the show.
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I have lost respect for what you have achieved. This is the very reason why I think that BB and competing is so unhealthy. Too much emphasis on appearance as opposed to performance. I think the whole industry needs a little bit of a shake up. Doping is a major issue in all other sports. Any winners or placements should be tested.
 
Emjay said:
I have lost respect for what you have achieved.
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Don't worry, I won't lose any sleep over it :)

Why does body building need to be tested? It isn't a sport where the winner is determined by who can run the fastest or throw a ball the farthest. That's like saying that beauty pageants need to be regulated and tested for any form of cosmetic enhancements or changes to the entrants appearances which can't be achieved naturally.

If someone wants to compete naturally then he/she should compete in a natural/tested federation. The IFBB isn't for him/her then.

Also, would you have the same views if the use of PEDs without a prescription was legal?
 
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Eedubz said:
Don't worry, I won't lose any sleep over it :)

Why does body building need to be tested? It isn't a sport where the winner is determined by who can run the fastest or throw a ball the farthest. That's like saying that beauty pageants need to be regulated and tested for any form of cosmetic enhancements or changes to the entrants appearances which can't be achieved naturally.

If someone wants to compete naturally then he/she should compete in a natural/tested federation. The IFBB isn't for him/her then.

Also, would you have the same views if the use of PEDs without a prescription was legal?
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I am against all forms of doping, legal or not. What's the point of competing then? Where does one draw the line?

I compete as an athlete. My satisfaction and enjoyment from competing comes from my own performance improvements. I have to put in extra effort to be above average, and I know that I did in on the back of my own hard work, and won't have any of those nagging doubts about how much the drugs (or enhancements as you call them) contributed. The problem I have is that people then brag about their hard work, and splash it all over the place. It gives people false expectations, and is pretty damn dangerous.

At least you are honest and open about your use. I hope you stop it before you suffer any long term damage. Not worth the risk imo.
 
Slootvreter said:
Jirre, like anyone really gives a fck. :crylaugh:

You are probably one of those people that think steroids are a shortcut.
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I do.

I don't even classify BBers who compete in BB competitions as athletes... Competing at actual lifting is another story however.
 
They're definitely not a shortcut. A shortcut implies that they're just a quicker/easier route to a desired outcome.
 
Eedubz said:
They're definitely not a shortcut. A shortcut implies that they're just a quicker/easier route to a desired outcome.
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And I agree on that definition. I have no doubt you work hard and put in the time and effort - just as much as non-steroid users. Your pictures clearly demonstrate this. However, your gains will be faster, which fits into your definition of a shortcut.
 
Emjay said:
I do.

I don't even classify BBers who compete in BB competitions as athletes... Competing at actual lifting is another story however.
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Your opinion from here on is worthless.

Eedubz said:
They're definitely not a shortcut. A shortcut implies that they're just a quicker/easier route to a desired outcome.
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Not a shortcut at all. Just taking roids is not going to do much besides make you look like the Michelin Man. The strict diet and meal planning, exercise programs, and time off for rest is waaay more than I'm prepared to go through.
 
Emjay said:
And I agree on that definition. I have no doubt you work hard and put in the time and effort - just as much as non-steroid users. However, your gains will be faster, which fits into your definition of a shortcut.
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The gains on AAS are definitely achievable faster, provided you put in the work and effort. However the physiques achievable are also far beyond what is achievable naturally. That's why they are used, not just to get to the end point sooner, but to surpass it.

I'd hope no one would use just to look like the average Men's Health cover model.
 
Eedubz said:
The gains on AAS are definitely achievable faster, provided you put in the work and effort. However the physiques achievable are also far beyond what is achievable naturally. That's why they are used, not just to get to the end point sooner, but to surpass it.

I'd hope no one would use just to look like the average Men's Health cover model.
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LOL, or the dude on the label of a tub of pre-workout :crylaugh: That you can archieve without juice. Without the pre-workout as well.
 
Eedubz said:
The gains on AAS are definitely achievable faster, provided you put in the work and effort. However the physiques achievable are also far beyond what is achievable naturally. That's why they are used, not just to get to the end point sooner, but to surpass it.

I'd hope no one would use just to look like the average Men's Health cover model.
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Nope, not the case.

Steroids are often associated with professional athletes and bodybuilders, but a January 2017 paper published in JAMA reports that 2.9 million to 4 million people in the U.S. have used anabolic steroids at some point in their life, and that nearly all of them are men. What's more, about 1 million American men have become dependent on steroids, using high doses for years, according to the paper.
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http://www.mensfitness.com/nutritio...-anabolic-steroids-and-how-do-they-affect-men

We could question the validity of that content of that article, but I don't have time to go hunting for a peer reviewed source.
 
Emjay said:
...and won't have any of those nagging doubts about how much the drugs (or enhancements as you call them) contributed... Not worth the risk imo.
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Exactly why I stray away from those drugs, other than the fact that most of it is illegal as well.
The health risks and mentality it takes when off of the cycle's, slowing and or losing gains, is not for everyone - one of the biggest reason it gets abused.

I don't care if some Pro pretends it's all about their Supplement sponsorships and their hard work and dedication alone. The whole industry is a sham if you ask me because of it. This does not affect me as I no longer do competitive sport, or even thought of competitive bodybuilding.

Hats off to the guys who have the balls to come clean and admit publically that they use these drugs. At least you (if you look up or want to follow them) have a realistic indication of what is possible and to not have any unrealistic expectations to be "harder, faster, stronger" without it...
 
what do you guys think of something like strength wars? bodybuilders, powerlifters, calisthenics and strongmen battling it out for supremacy, ultimately were all just weight lifters here with different goals

[video=youtube;9cz6l_ZPY2U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cz6l_ZPY2U[/video]

I'd love to attend one of these
 
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