The Middle East Conflict Thread

[JK8]

We should have cone back to the negation table!

BTW. It was not a Israeli proposal.

They had no "chair" at the table.

 

[Xarog]

They are still prepared to talk the palestinians, just not a terrorist group.

As I have already shown, the Israeli government is a terrorist entity which has in the past targetted millions of Lebanese civilians with makeshift landmines.

Thus, it's a case of pot calling kettle black, and the Israelis have no justification for making their claims. They walked away from the road map. Thus, Israel has never ever offered the Palestinians a viable offer for a Palestinian state. You were wrong, your argument has absolutely no merit.

Now are you you going to concede your mistake like you have asked me to do, or are you yet again going to display utter hypocrisy and lack of integrity?

You were wrong about the Rafah Border Crossing, what is there to debate?

The fact that you make yourself look like a poephol when you request people to admit to things they are mistaken about when you ignore anything you find inconvenient to your side.

 

[JK8]

Amazing that. All those protests in the U.K were against the West's actions in Iraq but absolutely nothing about the mass slaughter carried out against innocent Iraqis by Baathits, Shia extremists and Al Qaeda.

2 brothers can fight and seperate themselves from eachother for decades, but as soon as one is threatened by an outsider, they will stand together!

 

[BBSA]

As I have already shown, the Israeli government is a terrorist entity which has in the past targetted millions of Lebanese civilians with makeshift landmines.

Thus, it's a case of pot calling kettle black, and the Israelis have no justification for making their claims. They walked away from the road map. Thus, Israel has never ever offered the Palestinians a viable offer for a Palestinian state. You were wrong, your argument has absolutely no merit.

Now are you you going to concede your mistake like you have asked me to do, or are you yet again going to display utter hypocrisy and lack of integrity?


The fact that you make yourself look like a poephol when you request people to admit to things they are mistaken about when you ignore anything you find inconvenient to your side.

No need for personal attacks. Any case what is the point in debating with somebody who can not admit that he was wrong.

 

[nivek]

Im not sure where you get your info from, but as a Muslim we are aware of the killings of Muslims around the world.
Just because your news doesnt cover it and has taken preference to the Gaza conflict doesnt mean we or the world doesnt care!

200 every 4 days? Highly doubt it.

OH no, the media does cover it, the point is no muslim is stepping up and calling for the fighting to stop, there are no protests.. the point is nobody cares... they only "care" about the Palestinians because theres a political motive

Iraq Bomb Kills 48 in Volatile North - NYTimes.com12 Dec 2008 ... Iraq Bomb Kills 48 in Volatile North .... The children were crying and the women were shouting, ‘God is great!’ ” ...
www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/world/middleeast/12iraq.html?ref=middleeas -

Iraq: Suicide bomber kills 50 at Iraq restaurant - Los Angeles Times12 Dec 2008 ... Kirkuk bomb shatters a moment of reconciliation in Iraq ... a little girl with a giant bow in her hair and women dressed in holiday finery. ...
www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iraq12-2008dec12,0,4294402

http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=bomb+in+iraq+kills+women+children&meta=

 

[Xarog]

No need for personal attacks. Any case what is the point in debating with somebody who can not admit that he was wrong.

As I have repeatedly said : when you stop ignoring my posts, when you go back and adress the places that I have refuted your arguments, then we will see about my posts which came later in the thread.

For the record, you refused to fess up to your mistakes first. Note how you have done it yet again by COMPLETELY IGNORING :

As I have already shown, the Israeli government is a terrorist entity which has in the past targetted millions of Lebanese civilians with makeshift landmines.

Thus, it's a case of pot calling kettle black, and the Israelis have no justification for making their claims. They walked away from the road map. Thus, Israel has never ever offered the Palestinians a viable offer for a Palestinian state. You were wrong, your argument has absolutely no merit.

So when you say,

Any case what is the point in debating with somebody who can not admit that he was wrong.

Why exactly is it that you think I should bother to debate with you?

 

[Alan]

2 brothers can fight and seperate themselves from eachother for decades, but as soon as one is threatened by an outsider, they will stand together!

Yeah such a pity Saddam was threatened by a democracy. A democracy the one brother chose to live under

 

[d0b33]

You were wrong about the Rafah Border Crossing, what is there to debate?

Not quite...

The European Union Border Assistance Mission Rafah (EU BAM Rafah) is, after the EU Police Mission for the Gaza Strip (EU COPPS), the EU's second Civilian Crisis Management Mission in the Gaza Strip.

Its role is to:
actively monitor, verify and evaluate the PA's performance with regard to the implementation of the Framework, Security and Customs Agreements concluded between the parties on the operation of the Rafah terminal;
contribute, through mentoring, to building up the Palestinian capacity in all aspects of border management at Rafah.
contribute to the liaison between the Palestinian, Israeli and Egyptian authorities in all aspects regarding the management of the Rafah Crossing Point.

link

So Israel still has a say with regards to it being opened.

 

[JK8]

OH no, the media does cover it, the point is no muslim is stepping up and calling for the fighting to stop, there are no protests.. the point is nobody cares... they only "care" about the Palestinians because theres a political motive


http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=bomb+in+iraq+kills+women+children&meta=

There was protests in the beginning of the Iraq war and regular ones after that.
The entire world is against the Iraq war, even 80% of Americans if I remember correctly and everyones waiting for Obama to pull their troops.

We have always cared. When the US attacked Afghanistan we protested, when they attacked Iraq we protested, now "they" attacking Palestine we protest... woah passed 8 years shows quite a trend doesnt it...
Whos kicking the dog in the mouth now?

 

[rwenzori]

ROFL tinfoil hat time people

Not really. Don't forget what Israel's big brother the USA pays Egypt to be a good little puppet every year.

 

[BBSA]

As I have repeatedly said : when you stop ignoring my posts, when you go back and adress the places that I have refuted your arguments, then we will see about my posts which came later in the thread.

For the record, you refused to fess up to your mistakes first. Note how you have done it yet again by COMPLETELY IGNORING :


So when you say,


Why exactly is it that you think I should bother to debate with you?

You are correct there is no point in debating with you. You said Israel was in control of the Rafah Border Crossing. Which is not the case. And what is up with the personal attacks?

 

[marine1]

Thanks LG - great post.

ROFL coming from someone who is now living in the US and hates the US with every bone in his body?

 

[marine1]

How many were killed before the Iraq war? oh... none
But this is not relevant.

Yes because if they opened their mouths they were tortured and killed and oh yes lets not forget they were supporting terror via Saddam in other countries such as Israel , again points that you conveniently leave out.

You are correct there is no point in debating with you. You said Israel was in control of the Rafah Border Crossing. Which is not the case. And what is up with the personal attacks?

Well why should he posts the real facts? It is so much easier to post propaganda all the time as they have been doping.

 

[Alan]

Not really. Don't forget what Israel's big brother the USA pays Egypt to be a good little puppet every year.

So why don't they just pay HAMAS and FATAH to behave as well

 

[marine1]

Why exactly is it that you think I should bother to debate with you?

Could say the same to you. , you think you are so special?

 

[nivek]

There was protests in the beginning of the Iraq war and regular ones after that.
The entire world is against the Iraq war, even 80% of Americans if I remember correctly and everyones waiting for Obama to pull their troops.

We have always cared. When the US attacked Afghanistan we protested, when they attacked Iraq we protested, now "they" attacking Palestine we protest... woah passed 8 years shows quite a trend doesnt it...
Whos kicking the dog in the mouth now?

Exactly, when the americans attacked, you protested, when the Israelis attacked, you protested, but now that muslims are killing muslims in Iraq (with iranian sponsorship), no one is protesting and no one is condeming it, no one is even talking about it...

 

[Necuno]

marine1; pap en moer koffie ?

 

[JK8]

Yes because if they opened their mouths they were tortured and killed and oh yes lets not forget they were supporting terror via Saddam in other countries such as Israel , again points that you conveniently leave out.

Now all of a sudden you care for the innocent Muslims being killed?
Hypocrite!
Besides it was an oil war nothing else..

 

[marine1]

Ek praat nie Afrikaans nie

 

[rwenzori]

So why don't they just pay HAMAS and FATAH to behave as well

Why not ask them. I don't speak for them. But don't deny the annual payoffs.