The Middle East Conflict Thread

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BBSA said:
You also do realise that terrorist(the people you support) kills innocent civilians, right?
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In their eyes somebody who deliberately kills civilians is a desperate victim justifiably resorting to those measures. Somebody who kills civilians while trying to take those that are attacking them out are vile mass murdering sadists.


daveza said:
Which side would you expect to hold the moral high ground?
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and what's that then? Sit back while you 100 000s of your citizens come under attack constantly while appeasing the attackers to oh pretty please stop trying to kill us. :eek:

Sounds like the gun control lefltie loons in this country where you're supposed to just sit back and get attacked by criminals. Don't you dare lose your "moral high ground" by violently defending yourself *gasp* you're sinking to their level. You're no better them than crap :rolleyes:
 
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The awfully awful website.

The organisation is frequently quoted on local news broadcasts - I expected something professional.
 
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Alan said:
and what's that then? Sit back while you 100 000s of your citizens come under attack constantly while appeasing the attackers to oh pretty please stop trying to kill us. :eek:
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No, that's what you expect the Palestinians to do.

The moral high ground would not be denying people's basic human rights, to cease interfering with their right of self-determination, and to be willing to accept a settlement which actually allows for a viable state. The moral highground would be not aggravating people to the point where armed resistance is the only recourse.
 
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nivek said:
really?
and whys that?
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Here's an interesting documentary covering what you pointed out earlier. The useful idiots silence when Palestinians are killed by fellow 'Muslims' and not Israelis.


Also it covers the useful idiots support of HAMAS and their long history of jumping into bed with any thug, despot, tyrant ( Nazis, communists, baathists, Al Qaeda, Shia extremists, Hizbollah, FATAH, ANC , Zanu PF etc) because they're fellow self styled freedom fighting 'anti western imperialists'.

On a positive note the people interviewed are left wing themselves so it's reassuring to know there is still some semblance of rationality there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbznv15JQ5M
 
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Israel has established a democratic governed Country, successfully for more than 60 Years without OIL. It provided jobs to the Palasti. Which is the main reason of the conflict "SUCCESS" while Freedom Fighters or Terrorist Organizations are unable to govern a country.
 
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Arko2 said:
Israel has established a democratic governed Country, successfully for more than 60 Years without OIL. It provided jobs to the Palasti. Which is the main reason of the conflict "SUCCESS" while Freedom Fighters or Terrorist Organizations are unable to govern a country.
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It's rather hard to govern a country that is occupied by a foreign power.
 
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Arko2 said:
Israel has established a democratic governed Country, successfully for more than 60 Years without OIL. It provided jobs to the Palasti. Which is the main reason of the conflict "SUCCESS" while Freedom Fighters or Terrorist Organizations are unable to govern a country.
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Admission criteria for Hamas goverment office seems to be similar to that of the ANC.
 
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Ghazi said:
Admission criteria for Hamas goverment office seems to be similar to that of the ANC.
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You mean they're first banned and have their political freedom unjustly trampled upon until they actually have to resort to violence to restore that freedom?
 
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Xarog said:
There is no bait. You make false claims, I refute them. I tried to get you to address problems with your own viewpoint, you refused. When I saw it was pointless, I returned to deconstructing your arguments, point by point.

As it stands, you have not bothered to address the fact that Egypt is almost certainly collaborating with Israel over the Rafah crossing. You have not bothered to address the fact that Israel, who is security paranoid, apparently entrusts Egypt with their own nation's wellbeing. While you fail to address these points, your argument remains fundamentally flawed, and you are wrong.

So you have a choice : You can either :

1. Ignore my posts.
2. Respond to my posts and discuss the merits of the argument.
3. Ignore my posts, but still respond repeatedly how you refuse to take the bait (which would strike me as taking the bait if there was such a thing).

My order of preference is 2, 1 and then lastly 3.

So which is it going to be?
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Man, stop trying so hard:p

As I said and proven so many times: There is no point in debating with you.

BTW. Al those point you referring to has been addressed.
 
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BBSA said:
Man, stop trying so hard:p

As I said and proven so many times: There is no point in debating with you.

BTW. Al those point you referring to has been addressed.
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None of those points have been addressed, I'm sorry to say.
 
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everyone is fighting... guess u all just keyboard fighters.... :D

Thing is.. like mentioned earlier.. there is no winner here... one is called a terrorist the other not. So who is the right one here? depends on which viewpoint you looking from.

both are wrong.. and both right. Its not the people who want this.. its the leaders. Much like SA. The General populace just wanna get on with their lives, yet its the ego-manical leaders that are trying to prove points with the lives of innocents.

Pro- whatever.. it should stop. Its having a effect on world finance which ultimately means i have to think twice about buying that KFC soft-serve... no fair i say.
 
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