The Middle East Conflict Thread

[BBSA]

By all means, find posts which repudiate my claims which I have not addressed; I welcome the opportunity.

I would love to, but what is the point?

 

[Xarog]

I would love to, but what is the point?

You got your concession, so why are you still whining?

 

[d0b33]

You got your concession, so why are you still whining?

BBSA has conceded, lets move on.

 

[BBSA]

BBSA has conceded, lets move on.

Conceded, to what?

BTW. you still have not answered the following:

You do realise that terrorist(the people you support) kills innocent civilians, right?

 

[krycor]

Did you care about the innocent Israeli civilians that were killed in urban areas by Hamas militants rockets before the current confilct?

Thus far its 3 vs 919(40% is women & children), excuse me while if i don;t give a crap when images out of Israel show damaged walls and Israelis crying not about 'anxiety' and how they can't live like this. LMAO.

Put the Israelis under the same conditions and i will change my opinion

sorry to burst your bubble but it wont be improving anytime sooner, since their rocket designer is now dust

Why don't you design a rocket with rudimentary items?

Israel has established a democratic governed Country, successfully for more than 60 Years without OIL. It provided jobs to the Palasti. Which is the main reason of the conflict "SUCCESS" while Freedom Fighters or Terrorist Organizations are unable to govern a country.

Please.. as i said before, please if you think Israel is treating Palestinians so justly.. go live there for a yr. Take a medical before and after and you will see the difference.
To expect Gaza to be thriving when its basically a concrete jungle due to the people being forced into a small space especially with the restrictions of incoming aid etc. The blockade has been basically effective for 18 months and there are a ton of UN reports about the effects on health, and healthcare falling apart prior to the war.

 

[BBSA]

You got your concession, so why are you still whining?

Actualy you are doing all the whining

 

[d0b33]

BTW. you still have not answered the following:

I've answered the same BS many times...
I don't support any group.

 

[BBSA]

I've answered the same BS many times...
I don't support any group.

How convenient, but still you do realise that terrorist(like Hamas) kills innocent civilians, right?

 

[Ghazi]

I've answered the same BS many times...
I don't support any group.

While condemning only one group.

Israel just killed a lot of civilians... so stupid, they'll never make friends in that region.

 

[d0b33]

How convenient, but still you do realise that terrorist(like Hamas) kills innocent civilians, right?

Well yes I never denied that, Israel has killed far more(sometimes deliberately as documented before).

 

[d0b33]

While condemning only one group.

I've posted my view here....
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=2448519&postcount=3030

As you can see I share the view of a professor of international law, if he is on my side of the fence then I really am wasting my time arguing with a few who can't grasp injustice and violation of human rights.

 

[BBSA]

Well yes I never denied that, Israel has killed far more(sometimes deliberately as documented before).

No, you said " I care about innocent civilians being killed."

That is why I ask the question.

 

[Xarog]

Conceded, to what?

BTW. you still have not answered the following:

Shall I get all the things you have not answered?

And I didn't whine, I merely pointed out that your behaviour was hypocritical in the extreme.

 

[Xarog]

How convenient, but still you do realise that terrorist(like [-]Hamas[/-] Israel) kills innocent civilians, right?

Fixed it for you.

 

[BBSA]

Shall I get all the things you have not answered?

And I didn't whine, I merely pointed out that your behaviour was hypocritical in the extreme.

More whining

 

[Glock26]

BBSA,
You and i know it's pointless. They will never get it, since they stay at home and get their opinions from CNN and liberal media. I bet none have family in Israel, or have been told in SA that their friends or family overseas should be killed.
They are the types that still believe 9/11 was an internal US plot to blame Muslims and that Iran didn't try and buy nuke technology from SA to bomb Israel.
No point really.
They believe it was fine for the ANC to bomb restaurants here, just as it is fine for a Hamas fighter to blow himself up in a crowded Israeli nightclub since they are "oppressed"
You will never make a difference in trying to change their minds. Much the same as we won't back down either.

This just goes round and round in circles. Easier to just ignore it, and in a few years when what is going to happen, happens..we can say "told you so"

G26

 

[Glock26]

double post

 

[Alan]

I've posted my view here....
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=2448519&postcount=3030

As you can see I share the view of a professor of international law, if he is on my side of the fence then I really am wasting my time arguing with a few who can't grasp injustice and violation of human rights.

So no more posts on this subject from you then.

oh and on your "professor of international law"

Falk also wrote a chapter for Griffin's 2006 book entitled 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out.[29] Falk argued that "Momentous suspicious events bearing on the legitimacy of the process of governance in the US have been consistently shielded from mainstream inquiry by being reinscribed as the wild fantasies of 'conspiracy theorists'... The management of suspicion is itself suspicious."[30]

In November 2008, Falk wrote in The Journal, a student publication in Edinburgh, Scotland that “It is not paranoid under such circumstances to assume that the established elites of the American governmental structure have something to hide and much to explain... The persisting inability to resolve this fundamental controversy about 9/11 subtly taints the legitimacy of the American government. It can only be removed by a willingness, however belated, to reconstruct the truth of that day, and to reveal the story behind its prolonged suppression.”[31][32]

Tinfoil hat wearing truther loon

On February 16, 1979, two weeks after the Iranian revolution returned religious leader Ruhollah Khomeini to Iran, and nine months before student followers of Khomeini took American diplomats hostage at the US Embassy in Tehran, Falk wrote an op-ed for the New York Times entitled "Trusting Khomeini." He criticized President Jimmy Carter's accusations of "religious fanaticism" and media descriptions of Khomeini as being backward, antisemitic, and guilty of "theocratic fascism." Believing that Khomeini had been judged unfairly, he concluded "the depiction of Khomeini as fanatical, reactionary and the bearer of crude prejudices seems certainly and happily false ... To suppose that Ayatollah Khomeini is dissembling seems almost beyond belief. ... Having created a new model of popular revolution based, for the most part, on nonviolent tactics, Iran may yet provide us with a desperately-needed model of humane governance for a third-world country."[33][13

A fan of religious extremism. So much for "Human rights" Hanging homosexuals from trees is 'humane governance' ROFL

In October, 1973, Falk defended Karleton Armstrong, who pleaded guilty to bombing the University of Wisconsin Army Mathematics Research Center. The explosion killed a researcher working there. The New York Times reported that Falk "appealed for full amnesty for all resistors, including those who use violent tactics to oppose the" war in Vietnam.

Where's your caring for the plight of civilians now?

Also a member of IADL .

1978 Central Intelligence Agency report classified IADL as "one of most useful Communist front organizations at the service of the Soviet Communist Party," noting that "in the 31 years of the IADL's existence, it has so consistently demonstrated its support for Moscow's foreign policy objectives, and is so tied in with other front organizations and the Communist press, that it is difficult for it to pretend that its judgments are fair or relevant to basic legal tenets." IADL was a relentless foe of the United States' campaign against Communism during the Cold War, regularly railing against alleged American atrocities while remaining silent on the well-documented human rights violations of Communist regimes.

IADL also remains a steadfast champion of the Castro dictatorship. In October of 2000, IADL issued a declaration denouncing "the brutal and genocidal economic war that the United States of America has been waging against the Cuban people for forty years, because Cuba has made a Revolution, established an alternative political system, and built a state order of its own invention, creating a true democracy that breaks loose from the dictated paradigms with which they pretend to rule from their power centers, over the life and decisions of the whole universe."

IADL views Israel and the United States as bastions of "racism, colonialism, and economic and political injustice." The organization is closely affiliated, both through its membership and ideology, with the National Lawyers Guild.

Xarog should join lol

So we got typical moonbat here. Jumping into bed with every anti west thug through the last few decades. No surprise his comments now. No wonder Israel doesn't trust the U.N

 

[Necuno]

i see mr Zapiro has updated....

http://www.mg.co.za/cartoons/090111zapirobig.jpg

 

[d0b33]

oh and on your "professor of international law"

That's your opinion...

I also share the view of John Ging Director at UNRWA...

John Ging, head of the UN Palestinian refugee agency in Gaza, said: "It's about accountability [over] the issue of the appropriateness of the force used, the proportionality of the force used and the whole issue of duty of care of civilians.

"We don't want to join any chorus of passing judgment but there should be an investigation of any and every incident where there are concerns there might have been violations in international law."

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