The Middle East Conflict Thread

marine1

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They had an ex minister from Israel on BBC today, he was saying they send messages to every person, even the Ham A$$ terrorist scum bags warning them on such and such a day we will be bombing and moving in.....still the "innocent" terrorists stay there. What a crock of cr@p, warning the terrorists that you will be attacking, where you will be attacking and what time.

They should just circle the city and wipe out Ham A$$.
Stop trying to be the moral pones in this battle.
 

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Hey - blame the "hamarse" gang, not us!

Actually it was the "US-rael" comment that started the mud slinging. But yes, the "Hamarse" comments are also juvenile.

Okay everyone, no need to name call or be childish here, lets keep it mature, definitely an 18+ at least.
 

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They had an ex minister from Israel on BBC today, he was saying they send messages to every person, even the Ham A$$ terrorist scum bags warning them on such and such a day we will be bombing and moving in.....still the "innocent" terrorists stay there. What a crock of cr@p, warning the terrorists that you will be attacking, where you will be attacking and what time.

They should just circle the city and wipe out Ham A$$.
Stop trying to be the moral pones in this battle.

Well if they have the cellphone number of a person why bomb an entire block? or a hospital, or a police station or a university... etc.
 

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Well if they have the cellphone number of a person why bomb an entire block? or a hospital, or a police station or a university... etc.
Tell me do you know anything about war and planning of attacks against the enemy? Have you ever thought it is a tactical move?
 

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You got a translation for this "Taqiyya" ?

According to Twelver Shia, the first use of Taqiyya historically took place during the time of Muhammad when the Quraishis began torturing Muslims. Ammar ibn Yasir, a follower of Muhammad, whose parents were tortured in front of him by the Qurashis has renounced Islam & praised the Qurashi God "Hubal" to save his parents' lives. Yasir's parents were killed in front of him in the end, because they didn't renounce Islam. According to a canonical hadith, the prophet Muhammad later gave his permission for him to repeat such an act if he was placed in danger again.[citation needed]
Sounds like a good way to protect yourself.
 

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She said the sentence where it says [in Memri's translation] "We are going to ... we will annihilate the Jews", she said: "Well, our translators hear something else. They hear 'The Jews are shooting at us'."

I said to her: "You know, Octavia, the order of the words as you put it is upside down. You can't even get the order of the words right. Even someone who doesn't know Arabic would listen to the tape and would hear the word 'Jews' is at the end, and also it means it is something to be done to the Jews, not by the Jews."

And she insisted, no the word is in the beginning. I said: "Octavia, you just don't get it. It is at the end" ... She didn't know one from two, I mean.

I dunno, it all sounds very suspicious. The translation "The Jews are shooting us." is also out of context considering the last thing the girl said was "I'll shoot" and then goes on to say "We are going to defend al-Aqsa with our souls and blood, or are we not?" ending off with "I'll become a martyr".

I mean honestly, what the hell is Hamas trying to do to these poor kids? What is wrong with Sesame Street?
 

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And today 32 rockets fired into Israel today
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&art_id=nw20090104164040732C643967&click_id=3&test=1
I hope Israel blasts every lost one of them to kingdom come :mad:

At the time of going to press, columns of tanks backed by helicopters were crossing the boundary fence from three directions into the northern Gaza Strip under darkness, a Palestinian witness said.

An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed the incursion and said the aim was to seize areas from where Hamas was launching rocket attacks on southern Israel.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=vn20090104081552922C859241

Just retaliation for yet another invasion, I reckon. Looks like a fail so far for the Israelis.
 

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Just out of interest: what is the issue with the USA funding Israel? Personally, I'm not against it. If the USA wants to give money to Israel that is their prerogative :/
 

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Just out of interest: what is the issue with the USA funding Israel? Personally, I'm not against it. If the USA wants to give money to Israel that is their prerogative :/

Many Americans intend their tax dollars to be spent on them? :confused:
 

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Blockade people and deny them essentials, people react, try to oppress it, people say no we ain't gonna take it.

Yeah... it's a fail.

Wait, isn't that what Egypt did to Israel in 1967? Did Israel say no we ain't gonna take it? Didn't that result in Egypt and Jordan losing the West Bank and Gaza to Israel?

Honestly, do you not see the irony here? If you're condoning the actions of Hamas, then you're condoning the land gains in the 6-day war. Funny thing this Catch-22 situation.
 

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Many Americans intend their tax dollars to be spent on them? :confused:

I don't live in the USA, what concern is that to me again? :confused:

The US people elect these people into office, if they don't like the situation there is always someone else.
 
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