The Middle East Conflict Thread

Fern9do said:
FFS. Innocent women and kids are being killed like dogs and all you lot can come up with is Hamas this hamas that.
Some sick bastards on here...
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Hamas are terrorists, only a sick person would support such an organisation. :rolleyes:
 
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adamr said:
so you agree the attacks are then not surgical????? ... 93% aint good enough im sorry .. make its very inaccurate ... so 7 out of a 100 targets it will miss ... thanks for that figure ...
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Unfortunately thats the reality of war. There would be no need for these strikes if either hamas stops attacking israel or if hamas grows some balls and faces israel outside of the cities.
 
daveza said:
Let's stop this urban myth nonsense.

The Israelis killed the people inside the school. Period.

Whether it is hamas fault depends on the side of the fence you sit, but the shell that killed 40 people came from an Israeli weapon.
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Nonsense, If somebody rob a bank and the police accidentally shoot a bystander who is responsible? The robbers of cause.
 
timgaul said:
Hamas are terrorists, only a sick bastard would support such an organisation. :rolleyes:
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Only a sick bastard would support Israel's current actions firing on UN schools, killing civilians willy-nilly. Let's hope that one day the commanders and other perpetrators involved get brought to trial for war crimes.
 
BrandonH said:
Unfortunately thats the reality of war. There would be no need for these strikes if either hamas stops attacking israel or if hamas grows some balls and faces israel outside of the cities.
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Or if Israel pulled back to the Green Line and stopped blockading people up into ghettos and bantustans.
 
did the shells hit the schools directly or were they secondary explosions?
 
BBSA said:
Nonsense, If somebody rob a bank and the police accidentally shoot a bystander who is responsible? The robbers of cause.
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Who killed the bystander - the robbers or the police ?
If the police hadn't fired would the bystander be alive or dead ?
 
daveza said:
Who killed the bystander - the robbers or the police ?
If the police hadn't fired would the bystander be alive or dead ?
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If the police did not fire, the robber would have killed innocent employees and customers. The police was defending the employees and customers and maybe themselves. You can go and have a look at court cases, the robber is always guilty.
 
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nivek said:
did the shells hit the schools directly or were they secondary explosions?
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FFS!40 innocent people were killed. What does it matter?
This is a quote from the IDF Spokeswoman." the UN building was probably booby trapped' Thats why it was attacked. Be it first, second or 5th explosions. 40 people were killed in a UN school building. Where must these people hide from these IDF pigs?
 
BBSA said:
If the police did not fire the robber would have killed innocent employees and customers.
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:D:eek:

I rather doubt the police would shoot the robber while inside a bank with customers all around.

If however the robber was running away in the street, well then there would be no danger to innocent employees and customers.

Bottom line - the policeman killed the robber.

Just like an Israeli weapon killed those in the school.

The only debate is whether it was justified or not. And so far it isn't.
 
daveza said:
:D:eek:

I rather doubt the police would shoot the robber while inside a bank with customers all around.

If however the robber was running away in the street, well then there would be no danger to innocent employees and customers.

Bottom line - the policeman killed the robber.

Just like an Israeli weapon killed those in the school.

The only debate is whether it was justified or not. And so far it isn't.
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This is a hypothetical case, does not really make sense to speculate what happened, now does it?

The legal principal here is that if in the cause of a crime somebody gets killed the criminal is responsible for all deaths no matter who fired the shot.
 
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Oh gee how did people forget about this?
Matan Vilnai said Palestinians risked a "shoah", the Hebrew word for a big disaster - and for the Nazi Holocaust.
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Shoa is the Hebrew word for Holocaust so this was the intention all along.

Mr Vilnai made the comments after rockets hit the city of Ashkelon, 10km (six miles) from Gaza. His colleagues insisted he had not meant "genocide".
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Sure, Sure.. what about the Jewish militants who resisted the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghettos, did they deserve their shoa?

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nivek said:
Is that how you view Hamas?
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No but there are similarities.

Anyway Israel could have stopped the rockets if they tried...
The Islamist movement, which seized control of Gaza in June, has said it will cease fire if Israel stops its military operations in Palestinian areas and ends the blockade of the territory which has cut essential supplies to its 1.5m inhabitants.
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[From the same link above back in Feb]
 
The Islamist movement, which seized control of Gaza in June, has said it will cease fire if Israel stops its military operations in Palestinian areas and ends the blockade of the territory which has cut essential supplies to its 1.5m inhabitants.
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This does not make sence. There was a cease fire in June. Seems like your source is just propaganda!

From wiki:

On 19 June 2008, a six-month Egyptian-brokered cease-fire agreement went into effect between Hamas and Israel.
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