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wise_guy

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so i did my first 10k the weekend before this last on the Sunday, and we are talking now like 9 days later and my feet still hurt :( like they are fine and then i walk a few steps and i start feeling pains in my under/side of feet. any idea what it could be and how to treat it? the rest i thought would have done it by now to the point of feeling no discomfort when walking (the problem, not the cause, the cause was me going to hard too fast i reckon, that and i need to ultimately invest in better shoes if i keep up any sort of 'distance' running.)
Sounds like plantar fasciitis.
 

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Just run and take pics. I once had Bruce Fordyce jokingly moan that he was struggling his way up a hill and here I was just taking selfies on the run. :) I often take pics on runs and races, especially on trial runs.
He'll make a helluva comedian.


 

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How are you guys dealing with knee issues. Picked up a niggle in the same area of the knee as I did 20 years ago.
Using the same physio treatment from that time and it seems to be helping a lot. From the supporting vids on YT it appears to boil down to one or two things - tight or undeveloped quads, hams, glutes, calves and hips which causes alignment problems directed at the knee. Knee itself is perfectly fine unless its arthritic.
 

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How are you guys dealing with knee issues. Picked up a niggle in the same area of the knee as I did 20 years ago.
Using the same physio treatment from that time and it seems to be helping a lot. From the supporting vids on YT it appears to boil down to one or two things - tight or undeveloped quads, hams, glutes, calves and hips which causes alignment problems directed at the knee. Knee itself is perfectly fine unless its arthritic.

Go see a Kinesiologist. You are most likely out of alignment. Will get you sorted in no time.
 

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I've joined the dark side and bought myself a bike :X3:. The injuries keep mounting and need something to keep myself fit while I'm off my legs, hopefully the bike can make the running weaknesses strong and I can be injury free.

Well that's the plan.....

Hopefully a half iron after the covid but that training routine looks insane 6-7 days a with a minimum of 45mins a day.
 

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I've joined the dark side and bought myself a bike :X3:. The injuries keep mounting and need something to keep myself fit while I'm off my legs, hopefully the bike can make the running weaknesses strong and I can be injury free.

Well that's the plan.....

Hopefully a half iron after the covid but that training routine looks insane 6-7 days a with a minimum of 45mins a day.

I've been thinking of doing the same. Problem is it's been years since I've been on a bike and knowing my luck I'd get knocked by a car the first time I venture onto the road :oops:

Plus bikes cost an arm and a leg and I don't want to spend big bucks then find out I hate it
 

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I've joined the dark side and bought myself a bike :X3:. The injuries keep mounting and need something to keep myself fit while I'm off my legs, hopefully the bike can make the running weaknesses strong and I can be injury free.

Well that's the plan.....

Hopefully a half iron after the covid but that training routine looks insane 6-7 days a with a minimum of 45mins a day.
Bikes are a great way to up the cardiovascular fitness without getting injuries (unless you crash, cycling is either no-impact or incredibly high impact :p ).

That said, cycling is not going to help your running weaknesses at all and may actually contribute to more running injuries. In my case, I was a relatively serious cyclist for a few years (6000-7000km per year across road and MTB) before I started running. Got plenty of ITB issues when I started running because my cardio fitness was good but all the supporting muscles in the legs were weak because they are not used when you cycle because your movement is constrained. Had to run what felt like really slowly for ages just to build up the supporting muscles (by really slowly I'm talking like average 125-135 heart rate at most for up to an hour at a time). For reference in a 3 hour bike race my average heart rate will be around 155 - 165 so the 125-135 felt like I was taking it really easy and got fairly frustrating.

As far as the half iron goes, yeah, you need to put in the time in training or the race itself is really going to suck. Last year I did my first half iron and I did 166 hours of training between 1 Jan and 1 June for the race on 2 June and I actually really enjoyed it. Took it relatively easy and made it in just under 6 hours but I could definitely have pushed quite a lot harder. That said I was carrying quite a lot of cycling fitness when I started training but I basically started running and swimming from scratch (ran 10km between May 2018 and Dec 2018 and swam 3km in the same time period).
 

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I've been thinking of doing the same. Problem is it's been years since I've been on a bike and knowing my luck I'd get knocked by a car the first time I venture onto the road :oops:

Plus bikes cost an arm and a leg and I don't want to spend big bucks then find out I hate it

I'm lucky I have a long spruit I can go down mainly away from cars until I become a half decent rider. I bought a middle of range beginners bike so it didn't cost an arm and a leg just the arm https://www.giant-bicycles.com/za/bikes-talon-29 I got the talon 2 but a bit cheaper because my friend organized it.

He says its an ok bike, I like the look of it :ROFL: so at least if it becomes a garden ornament it will look ok.
 

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Bikes are a great way to up the cardiovascular fitness without getting injuries (unless you crash, cycling is either no-impact or incredibly high impact :p ).

That said, cycling is not going to help your running weaknesses at all and may actually contribute to more running injuries. In my case, I was a relatively serious cyclist for a few years (6000-7000km per year across road and MTB) before I started running. Got plenty of ITB issues when I started running because my cardio fitness was good but all the supporting muscles in the legs were weak because they are not used when you cycle because your movement is constrained. Had to run what felt like really slowly for ages just to build up the supporting muscles (by really slowly I'm talking like average 125-135 heart rate at most for up to an hour at a time). For reference in a 3 hour bike race my average heart rate will be around 155 - 165 so the 125-135 felt like I was taking it really easy and got fairly frustrating.

As far as the half iron goes, yeah, you need to put in the time in training or the race itself is really going to suck. Last year I did my first half iron and I did 166 hours of training between 1 Jan and 1 June for the race on 2 June and I actually really enjoyed it. Took it relatively easy and made it in just under 6 hours but I could definitely have pushed quite a lot harder. That said I was carrying quite a lot of cycling fitness when I started training but I basically started running and swimming from scratch (ran 10km between May 2018 and Dec 2018 and swam 3km in the same time period).

I still plan on running but I need some days where I'm not putting the impact on my legs during the week. I get the feeling like I'm not pushing myself so instead of doing a 31 minute run (thank discovery for this :ROFL:) its more of a 1h - 1h30 ride to get the same work out but I'm probably just bad at riding.

Nice job on the half, 6 hours would be very fast for me, I think I would be happy with 7 hours. I just cant imagine doing a 2 hour half marathon after cycling for 90km its hard enough to do that normally.
 

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So Saturday saw my first run in almost 8 weeks. I promptly planted mealies and ended up grazing both knees which had just started to feel fine after I injured them the last time.

The funny part is the right knee now feels better after the knock. Apart from the graze that is. Had an easy run today so will see what the after effects are going to be soon enough.
 

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So Saturday saw my first run in almost 8 weeks. I promptly planted mealies and ended up grazing both knees which had just started to feel fine after I injured them the last time.

The funny part is the right knee now feels better after the knock. Apart from the graze that is. Had an easy run today so will see what the after effects are going to be soon enough.

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Joined a trail running group (Non official) so have been out every Sunday for the last bit doing 15-20km's trails Melville koppies - kingskloof - klipriversberg and a few more.

This weekend I'm away in Cullinan so I'm sure I will find a good route to run out there. Next weekend doing this https://www.wannado.co.za/cradle-moon-duel with the new GF although shes on the bike so going to really have to run to even have a chance of competing.
 
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