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The problem is groups like that go after foreigners in general (regardless of being legal or not), then call them illegals and take or destroy their stuff or harm them.
Fair enough but the problem is that as a community we kinda know who sells coke and who is involved in heists. They can equally know who is illegal and who is not. i can tell you that most Somalis use asylum passports but they still visit home frequently and sometimes for a couple of months which is weird for an asylum seeker.
What do you mean? Like a national referendum over immigration?
Yes. Because it seems like there are people who believe entry level jobs should be for everyone within our borders and there are those who don’t. Either a referendum or respect the existing laws. Neglecting the laws is not a solution
SA is quite unique in a sense that the government does not respect its own laws on immigration but we somehow expect immigrants to respect the laws.
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Ok, so I want to chat a bit about Cape Independence cause I find it massively interesting and with the whole controversial LPR/DPR thing in Ukraine... Anyway. (I didn't want to make another separate thread about it, just to have it crash into nothingness in a few hours, I actually want to amicably chat about this. Also related to SA politics.)
There's going to be a march in CPT on 27 April.
FREE the CAPE (Freedom Day March)
Show your support for Cape Independence by signing our Petition and participating in our Free the Cape march.www.capeindependence.org
The poll results are very interesting (Aug 2021, I know, but it's all we have atm).
On the front of referendum support, the support from respondents according to political party is as follows (2.5% Abstained/don't have an opinion):
On the front of actual independence support, the support from registered voters is as follows, afterwards the support from all respondents (4.2 and 4.6% Abstained/no opinion):
- 64.8% Support/31.3% Oppose - DA
- 36.8% Support/59% Oppose - ANC
- 63.1% Support/36.9% Oppose - EFF (Surprising, I know)
- 90.6% Support/9.4% Oppose - VF+
And the last question is the one I find most interesting, "I believe South Africa belongs to everyone who lives here regardless of their race" (sorted by race this time since the question is about race, 3.6% Abstained/no opinion):
- Registered voters:
- Support - 46.2%
- Oppose - 49.60%
- All respondents (sorted by political party):
- DA - 55.7% Support/37.5% Oppose
- VF+ - 90.6% Support/9.4% Oppose
- ANC - 19.4% Support/78.5% Oppose
- EFF - 20.7% Support/79.3% Oppose
Coloured - 84% Agree/11% Disagree
White - 92% Agree/5% Disagree
Black - 54% Agree/47% Disagree
Growth among CI referendum/topic positive parties (VF+, CCC, even the long mocked CIP) in last year's LGE
LGE 2021 Positive for Cape Independence
PRESS RELEASE: CIAG delighted with outcome of Local Government Elections. Notable shift away from centralised government towards devolved power.
So yeah, with the Private Members Bill of the DA (essentially a bill that gives premiers the right to have a referendum in their respective provinces, regardless of presidential approval) being up for debate some or other time, the ideological chasm deepening between WC and the rest of SA, pro-CI parties growing in WC, I think this topic might get a lot more air time (and even more interesting to see) in the run-up to 2024.
And, discuss!
Much agreed. Although I find it odd that some people scream "xenophobiaaaa" at people like Mashaba for trying to solve our problems with illegals/immigration without being actually xenophobic?
Lovely...ANC Fat cats get fatter
Non-profit organisations that received Lottery grants contributed millions of rands, directly and indirectly, to help pay for a lavish R27 million mansion for former National Lotteries Commission (NLC) board chairperson Alfred Nevhutanda.
The politically-connected Nevhutanda, who is a former provincial chairperson of the ANC in Limpopo, was the chair of the NLC board at the time of these payments and the purchase of the house and estate. He was one of the key fundraisers for the ANC’s 2009 election campaign in Limpopo.
Lottery money funded the board chair’s luxury private estate
One of Alfred Nevhutanda’s companies received millions for his mansion from Lottery grants.
I had a commission in 2017 to create anti-corruption training materials for the National Lottery Board.ANC Fat cats get fatter
Non-profit organisations that received Lottery grants contributed millions of rands, directly and indirectly, to help pay for a lavish R27 million mansion for former National Lotteries Commission (NLC) board chairperson Alfred Nevhutanda.
The politically-connected Nevhutanda, who is a former provincial chairperson of the ANC in Limpopo, was the chair of the NLC board at the time of these payments and the purchase of the house and estate. He was one of the key fundraisers for the ANC’s 2009 election campaign in Limpopo.
Lottery money funded the board chair’s luxury private estate
One of Alfred Nevhutanda’s companies received millions for his mansion from Lottery grants.
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This is hilarious. I wonder for how long Mbeki will try to save ANC WC.
Some? I think you meant MOST there.
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Why is it hilarious?Mbeki meets with ANC Western Cape leaders, alliance over 'renewal' of the party | News24
Former ANC leader Thabo Mbeki is taking his commitment to the party's renewal call to the Western Cape as he meets with the province's leaders and alliance partners.
This is hilarious. I wonder for how long Mbeki will try to save ANC WC.
Some? I think you meant MOST there.
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While the DA had more or less the same percentage as they got in 2019 (give or take a percentage point) in WC, the ANC has plummeted even further.
From 28.64% in 2019 to 20.41% in 2021. Eight percentage points in 2 years.
The ANC can be saved. ? Yeah right, nepotism, corruption, inefficiencies run through their veins.Mbeki meets with ANC Western Cape leaders, alliance over 'renewal' of the party | News24
Former ANC leader Thabo Mbeki is taking his commitment to the party's renewal call to the Western Cape as he meets with the province's leaders and alliance partners.
This is hilarious. I wonder for how long Mbeki will try to save ANC WC.
Cause ANC WC is so far gone, not even Mbeki will be able to save them.
Firstly I don't think he claimed that he is there to save the ANC.
So the "unity and renewal" thing isn't an attempt to save the ANC (ANC WC specifically in this case)? What would you call it then?
Ok, so they've been the official opposition in the others since forever? And they keep trying to improve and appeal to the electorate cause they want to become the ruling party nationally and in most of the provinces?
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