The SA Politics Thread

[wingnut771]

Did the FF+ coalesce with or support the ANC from then onwards? No.

That only happened because the ANC was scared of the wit gevaar.

 

[TheChamp]

Yes and?

Our politics are essentially divided between the ANC and its allies, and the DA and its allies... With EFF being non-aligned (for now at least).

So what are you saying, a vote for the Freedom Front is a vote for the DA?

 

[wingnut771]

Remember Zuma's "hotline"?

 

[Agent67]

Things have changed a lot since then. Why is there no FF+ in cabinet these days?

Funny thing is, if FF+ pulled an NNP, they would have disappeared faster than a puddle of water in the summertime Karoo.

 

[Agent67]

So what are you saying, a vote for the Freedom Front is a vote for the DA?

As I said, our politics are divided mostly into two blocs. ANC-coalition and DA-coalition with some non-aligned.

So a vote for the VF+ would be a vote for a DA-coalition/the UF. And a vote for GOOD would be for the ANC-coalition.

 

[Agent67]

Remember Zuma's "hotline"?

The what?

 

[TheChamp]

As I said, our politics are divided mostly into two blocs. ANC-coalition and DA-coalition with some non-aligned.

So a vote for the VF+ would be a vote for a DA-coalition/the UF. And a vote for GOOD would be for the ANC-coalition.

But people still vote for the Freedom Front even though it's the apparently same thing as voting for the DA, how does that make sense?

 

[R13...]

That only happened because the ANC was scared of the wit gevaar.

Lol, ridiculous. The FF+ aren't in government now because they were offered a position again.

 

[wingnut771]

The what?

The ANC were running scared way back when Zuma became president. Zuma created a hotline that people could call to report corruption.

President Zuma Launches the Presidential Hotline | The Presidency

www.thepresidency.gov.za

 

[Agent67]

But people still vote for the Freedom Front even though it's the apparently same thing as voting for the DA, how does that make sense?

Not for the DA itself, but for the DA bloc/the UF.

They are different parties but FF+ is aligned toward the UF/DA bloc.

 

[TheChamp]

Not for the DA itself, but for the DA bloc/the UF.

They are different parties but they are aligned toward the UF/DA bloc.

So a vote for GOOD is a vote for GOOD, right?

 

[Agent67]

So a vote for GOOD is a vote for GOOD, right?

A vote for GOOD is a vote for the ANC-bloc (not the ANC itself).

 

[TheChamp]

A vote for GOOD is a vote for the ANC-bloc (not the ANC itself).

You make it sound as though there are permanent coalitions, some of the parties that kept ANC in power in some of the metros are now in the DA camp.

 

[wingnut771]

Lol, ridiculous. The FF+ aren't in government now because they were offered a position again.

Cyril aligns cogs in his Cabinet

The negotiations started before the elections and continued until the very last moment.

mg.co.za

 

[Agent67]

You make it sound as though there are permanent coalitions, some of the parties that kept ANC in power in some of the metros are now in the DA camp.

We aren't going to reach an agreement here, so I disengage.

GG WP.

 

[Agent67]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1569219159149662210

 

[R13...]

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Cyril aligns cogs in his Cabinet

The negotiations started before the elections and continued until the very last moment.

mg.co.za

So they have an agreement not to work with the ANC, but worked with Zuma's ANC? As I said, ridiculous.

 

[TheChamp]

I wonder how far Is COPE's investigation.

'We don't want a DA or ANC-led coalition govt,' says acting Joburg council speaker | The Citizen

The DA is reportedly seeking an urgent court interdict in a bid to stop Tuesday’s planned special sitting from taking place.

www.citizen.co.za

 

[TheChamp]

So they have an agreement not to work with the ANC, but worked with Zuma's ANC? As I said, ridiculous.

Maybe they saw just how dangerous Zuma was and wanted to influence him from the inside, Cyril is cool, there is no threat of him selling the country to the Guptas.

 

[Agent67]

I wonder how far Is COPE's investigation.

'We don't want a DA or ANC-led coalition govt,' says acting Joburg council speaker | The Citizen

The DA is reportedly seeking an urgent court interdict in a bid to stop Tuesday’s planned special sitting from taking place.

www.citizen.co.za

I wonder as well. Since she's gone totally rogue.