The Shroom Thread

Yeah, the only issue I've read of with Seratonin Syndrome is when you take a MAOI and also SSRI's.
For example Chunga, a DMT blend, usually contains MAOI's and is not advised when you already take SSRI's.
But I've read no such thing about shrooms. Lithium, I don't know about.

I've occasionally read people warning against using SSRI's and mushrooms together, but I have a feeling they're sort of misinterpreting what they've been told about digestive DMT and applied it to hallucinogens in general. As you say, it's the MAOIs that make that very dangerous - you can actually potentiate drugs like mushrooms by combining them with MAOIs as well.
 
Unlikely because Psilocybe aztecorum is a wood-lover and wood-lovers are notoriously difficult to cultivate. When people refer to Amazonians, it's usually the Amazonian "strain" of psilocybe cubensis. The picture you posted look like the classic golden caps of cubes - that said I've never seen dried aztecorum.

There's very little difference between these magic mushroom "strains". It's very rare that you'll buy anything other than Psilocybe Cubensis and the only cubensis strain that is consistently considered stronger than the rest is Penis Envy and that's likely a result of the penis envy mutation which causes it to mature much more slowly than normal cubes. Strength is more based on genetics and growing conditions. Even from the same grow each mushroom's potency can vary. So Golden Teacher, Combodians, Amazonians, Puerto Ricans, B+, etc are all just psilocybe cubensis.

If anyone sells you mushrooms at different prices, I wouldn't necessarily expect the more expensive ones to really be that much stronger.

If you can get your hands on real psilocybe azurescens, psilocybe cyanescens or panaeolus cyanescens, then they will very definitely be stronger than cubes. Usually these species are foraged due to how difficult they are to cultivate, but the only one of these I've heard of being foraged in SA is panaeolus cyanescens. In South Africa we have our own psilocybe species called psilocybe natalensis which could potentially be foraged, but I don't know much about it.
Thanks for this detailed explanation. Really clears things up. I plan on growing Pan Cyans in a few months.
 
Thanks for this detailed explanation. Really clears things up. I plan on growing Pan Cyans in a few months.

Good luck with the Pan Cyans, let us know if you have any success. They're known to be quite difficult to work with - my first attempt (admittedly not really trying) didn't go very far.
 
I see people saying there is a risk of Seratonin Syndrome when taking mushrooms on SSRIs but I've yet to actually see any accounts of it. I'm on SSRIs and what does happen is the effect is distinctly dulled to the point that I personally land up taking much higher doses for the same effects. I've never had any issues with SS in spite of this and I usually take at least 7g (if I take 2g I don't get anything but anxiety). My sister takes SSRIs and still trips at 2g so my dose requirements could just be down to my personal brain chemistry.

I would do more research on possible interactions with Lithium, however. See if you can find any experiences from people who have combined it with mushrooms. My personal non-medical opnion is that if you're only planning on microdosing (microdoses are usually around 0.1g) you're likely to have very little to worry about.
Yeah, the only issue I've read of with Seratonin Syndrome is when you take a MAOI and also SSRI's.
For example Chunga, a DMT blend, usually contains MAOI's and is not advised when you already take SSRI's.
But I've read no such thing about shrooms. Lithium, I don't know about.

Thanks folks, I've managed to do a bit more reading and it seems SSRI's would be safeish (but more research needed) but Lithium seems to be a big no-no (anecdotal but would rather not risk it)
All in, I'll just have to live vicariously through you guys.
Happy exploring
 
Thanks folks, I've managed to do a bit more reading and it seems SSRI's would be safeish (but more research needed) but Lithium seems to be a big no-no (anecdotal but would rather not risk it)
All in, I'll just have to live vicariously through you guys.
Happy exploring
What will happen if you stop your medication for 3 or 4 days and then start the shrooms? Will it be too much?
 
What will happen if you stop your medication for 3 or 4 days and then start the shrooms? Will it be too much?
Not worth the risk, from an interaction point of view as well as not being on the Lithium. Don't think you guys want news headlines of someone doing something stupid (probably road rage)because I dropped the meds and started shrooms. Going to try using weed to get off the meds, then once it's safe, I can explore the shrooms.
 
Not worth the risk, from an interaction point of view as well as not being on the Lithium. Don't think you guys want news headlines of someone doing something stupid (probably road rage)because I dropped the meds and started shrooms. Going to try using weed to get off the meds, then once it's safe, I can explore the shrooms.

I don't think weed helps get off meds.
 
I don't think weed helps get off meds.
Weed already supplements my meds, I'm curious to what extent I need the meds, and how much load can be carried by herb.
With all due respect, if anyone want to discuss further, please feel free to DM me as I reckon I've derailed this thread enough :cool::thumbsup:

Safe travels space explorers.
 
Good luck with the Pan Cyans, let us know if you have any success. They're known to be quite difficult to work with - my first attempt (admittedly not really trying) didn't go very far.
Yeah thanks, I'll try my best and take all possible precautions. I'll let you guys know how it goes
 
In your opinions, are shrooms best suited to ''controlled'' environments?

Example: At home, with trusted friends with little outside stimuli.

Have any of you ever taken shrooms in a public place, specifically a festival environment where you are out doors, there is music and a lot of people.

I find I get anxious when communicating with other people while on shrooms. I wouldn't want to be tripping while in a public place - I'd feel very uncomfortable. That being said, it depends on the dose. A light enough dose, like a micro or mini dose, is fine.

But I'd say anything above 1g is too much for a public place. You just won't have a good time, at least I don't think I would. Maybe if you were walking in nature, you'd be okay.

I would say, shrooms are best for an environment with trusted friends yes, ideally all tripping together or with one sitter. I do trip alone - so far I haven't had a bad experience. But some near misses have taught me what to be careful about.

Ultimately, that is part of what it boils down to. Even a bad trip teaches you things, sometimes things as simple as, "don't trip in a public place again." My public place wasn't a terrible trip, but it made me realize it could have been so much worse. If I had taken a higher dose I think I might have freaked out.

You become a wiser user of shrooms the more you use them, but don't ever fool yourself into thinking you can always make yourself have a good trip. You control the variables that you can, and you learn to abort when you need to, but there are no guarantees.
 
I still want to try it, one day. Just scared my mind never returns to normal
 
I still want to try it, one day. Just scared my mind never returns to normal
If anything, shrooms make your mind more "normal" since it connects parts of your brain to other parts which they would not normally communicate with. download (2).jpeg
 
Some friendly advice - the most intense trip I've ever had was from the mushroom infused tequila shot you can buy from 420monkeys or the GreenGuys, I forget who exactly. Just be careful because that vial, which looks honestly like a teaspoon of tequila, knocked my friggin' socks off for like 7 hours.
 
I still want to try it, one day. Just scared my mind never returns to normal

I think that is a bit of an overblown myth.

Shrooms are actually a fascinating experience. I say this as someone who has literally never smoked weed, nor tried any other psychedelics, nor any narcotics (heroin, cocaine etc). In fact, I have zero interest in the narcotics. Shrooms interest me greatly because it is well accepted that they are so beneficial for your brain/mind (if there is a difference).

I think you can break the effects of shrooms down into the effects on your thought patterns and the effect on your vision (hallucinations).

I don't tend to have trips that are as visual as other people. I don't know why. Some people describe sparkles and different colours, I don't really get that. I've never really had major hallucinations the way some people report. The most I've ever hallucinated, I could see geometric patterns on floors and walls, and I'd see what looked like text printed on some surfaces. I couldn't read the text, but I knew that it was text. In some cases, it floated in mid air - my brain had connected blades of grass together and formed a surface upon which it printed text I couldn't read.

The thing about hallucinations is that - at least in my experience - you never see anything that isn't there. You just interpret it differently. So, I'd be looking at a plant with patterns on its leaves. The patterns would not constant. Imagine you turned a lava lamp into a plant - that's what it looked like. But I knew it was still a plant and it still had those patterns. They just didn't stand still. In another case, a brick wall looked like the bricks were made of melting cheese, which was pretty cool. But, they were still recognizably bricks. The outline and colours were the same, but my brain interpreted it as melting cheese, which was dripping down. Still, it never changed if that makes any sense. What I mean is that, a brick would stay in place. It looked like it was in motion because it looked like the cheese should have been falling down, but it didn't move. It just looked like it did.

I also notice that there is a connection between how I focus my attention and the hallucinations. The more you focus on a particular thing, the less you hallucinate. If you relax and unfocus your mind, the hallucinations get stronger. Its like you have to not be looking directly at something in order for it to hallucinate. Have it in your field of view, but don't stare at it. If you stare at it, chances are it will look normal. Depends on the dose though. On a high enough dose, you'll hallucinate no matter what you do with your mind.

Speaking of the mind - you'll notice that your thoughts go from A to B to C.... etc all the way to Z very quickly. So quickly that you almost lose contact with the present moment. It's hard to explain. But it's a distinctly different way of thinking to normal. This is what causes you to zone out. It's perhaps the most distinctive characteristic of tripping, perhaps more so than the visuals for me.
 
I think that is a bit of an overblown myth.

Shrooms are actually a fascinating experience. I say this as someone who has literally never smoked weed, nor tried any other psychedelics, nor any narcotics (heroin, cocaine etc). In fact, I have zero interest in the narcotics. Shrooms interest me greatly because it is well accepted that they are so beneficial for your brain/mind (if there is a difference).

I think you can break the effects of shrooms down into the effects on your thought patterns and the effect on your vision (hallucinations).

I don't tend to have trips that are as visual as other people. I don't know why. Some people describe sparkles and different colours, I don't really get that. I've never really had major hallucinations the way some people report. The most I've ever hallucinated, I could see geometric patterns on floors and walls, and I'd see what looked like text printed on some surfaces. I couldn't read the text, but I knew that it was text. In some cases, it floated in mid air - my brain had connected blades of grass together and formed a surface upon which it printed text I couldn't read.

The thing about hallucinations is that - at least in my experience - you never see anything that isn't there. You just interpret it differently. So, I'd be looking at a plant with patterns on its leaves. The patterns would not constant. Imagine you turned a lava lamp into a plant - that's what it looked like. But I knew it was still a plant and it still had those patterns. They just didn't stand still. In another case, a brick wall looked like the bricks were made of melting cheese, which was pretty cool. But, they were still recognizably bricks. The outline and colours were the same, but my brain interpreted it as melting cheese, which was dripping down. Still, it never changed if that makes any sense. What I mean is that, a brick would stay in place. It looked like it was in motion because it looked like the cheese should have been falling down, but it didn't move. It just looked like it did.

I also notice that there is a connection between how I focus my attention and the hallucinations. The more you focus on a particular thing, the less you hallucinate. If you relax and unfocus your mind, the hallucinations get stronger. Its like you have to not be looking directly at something in order for it to hallucinate. Have it in your field of view, but don't stare at it. If you stare at it, chances are it will look normal. Depends on the dose though. On a high enough dose, you'll hallucinate no matter what you do with your mind.

Speaking of the mind - you'll notice that your thoughts go from A to B to C.... etc all the way to Z very quickly. So quickly that you almost lose contact with the present moment. It's hard to explain. But it's a distinctly different way of thinking to normal. This is what causes you to zone out. It's perhaps the most distinctive characteristic of tripping, perhaps more so than the visuals for me.
Thanks for your explanation, greatly appreciated.

Could I go with like 1g at first? Would it be beneficial or not really? Would I be able to just take it at home in the evening whilst sitting on the couch?
 
With all the research etc into all this stuff I have been wondering lately if I couldn't/shouldn't self-medicate myself out of my present rather stressed and unhappy state of mind. There is a combination of stuff going on, some long term, and some more immediate that has really tipped me of the edge this year. The only problem is that I'm terrified to try. Don't want to take too much of something. Don't want a horrible experience. Don't know where to buy safe, affordable product. la la la la la ..
 
I'd advise anyone looking into doing this to YouTube Paul Stamets, Dennis McKenna and Michael Pollan. There are podcasts that were put up on YouTube as well with Joe Rogan.
 
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