The Shroom Thread

[The_Mowgs]

With all the research etc into all this stuff I have been wondering lately if I couldn't/shouldn't self-medicate myself out of my present rather stressed and unhappy state of mind. There is a combination of stuff going on, some long term, and some more immediate that has really tipped me of the edge this year. The only problem is that I'm terrified to try. Don't want to take too much of something. Don't want a horrible experience. Don't know where to buy safe, affordable product. la la la la la ..

Perhaps try microdosing first?

 

[biometrics]

Some friendly advice - the most intense trip I've ever had was from the mushroom infused tequila shot you can buy from 420monkeys or the GreenGuys, I forget who exactly. Just be careful because that vial, which looks honestly like a teaspoon of tequila, knocked my friggin' socks off for like 7 hours.

Was it good though? I bought one in December and it’s been in storage since.

King Kushie sells it.

 

[Ancalagon]

Thanks for your explanation, greatly appreciated.

Could I go with like 1g at first? Would it be beneficial or not really? Would I be able to just take it at home in the evening whilst sitting on the couch?

Yeah, totally. You've already mentioned microdosing, so you know that even small doses can have a positive effect. Nobody says you have to a 5g heroic dose to get any benefit. Larger doses tend to have longer lasting and more life changing effects, but the effects of microdosing seem to be permanent too. Microdose long enough and you will see permanent changes in yourself.

I've even heard reports of experienced trippers who say that the have tried large doses and actually prefer smaller doses. So, start with what you feel comfortable with. A 1g dose should be a lightly psychedelic dose. You might notice slight visual changes but nothing major. You are likely to get some form of emotional effects, like euphoria.

With all the research etc into all this stuff I have been wondering lately if I couldn't/shouldn't self-medicate myself out of my present rather stressed and unhappy state of mind. There is a combination of stuff going on, some long term, and some more immediate that has really tipped me of the edge this year. The only problem is that I'm terrified to try. Don't want to take too much of something. Don't want a horrible experience. Don't know where to buy safe, affordable product. la la la la la ..

Just remember that there are no magic bullets. Mushrooms are very powerful but cannot themselves solve the problems in your life. They can change how you approach life, and can reset your stress levels to normal, but its up to you what you do with that. I think if you see mushrooms as part of an effort to improve yourself and improve your life, you will do fine. Don't put all of the onus on them or expect miracles.

 

[saor]

self-medicate myself out of my present rather stressed and unhappy state of mind.

Don't want a horrible experience.

Therapeutic experiences are often the most difficult experiences. It's a good idea to abandon all expectation and desire for how the trip should go, and instead to go with it wherever it goes.

 

[The_Mowgs]

Yeah, totally. You've already mentioned microdosing, so you know that even small doses can have a positive effect. Nobody says you have to a 5g heroic dose to get any benefit. Larger doses tend to have longer lasting and more life changing effects, but the effects of microdosing seem to be permanent too. Microdose long enough and you will see permanent changes in yourself.

I've even heard reports of experienced trippers who say that the have tried large doses and actually prefer smaller doses. So, start with what you feel comfortable with. A 1g dose should be a lightly psychedelic dose. You might notice slight visual changes but nothing major. You are likely to get some form of emotional effects, like euphoria.



Just remember that there are no magic bullets. Mushrooms are very powerful but cannot themselves solve the problems in your life. They can change how you approach life, and can reset your stress levels to normal, but its up to you what you do with that. I think if you see mushrooms as part of an effort to improve yourself and improve your life, you will do fine. Don't put all of the onus on them or expect miracles.

First microdose pill I took I really enjoyed the euphoria. Music was so clear and meaningful, the colour red stood out so bright, but only from electronic sources such as traffic or brake lights.

What I meant was I want to trip on shrooms to experience it.

 

[Ancalagon]

1.5g is probably the lowest dose that would make you trip. 2g is better. Do it with someone you trust who has done it before, if possible.

 

[The_Mowgs]

1.5g is probably the lowest dose that would make you trip. 2g is better. Do it with someone you trust who has done it before, if possible.

That would be a bit difficult but will see what I can do. Would I be able to just sit inside my house or is it not really recommended?

 

[mister]

That would be a bit difficult but will see what I can do. Would I be able to just sit inside my house or is it not really recommended?

I would do it in the day... Less chance of finding boogie monsters! If a sitter is not available then I would get some microdose caps and titrate your dose up slowly... 420M caps are 250mg. I notice a change in perception at 750mg.

You can never have enough research under your belt. Don't rush into it.

 

[The_Mowgs]

I would do it in the day... Less chance of finding boogie monsters! If a sitter is not available then I would get some microdose caps and titrate your dose up slowly... 420M caps are 250mg. I notice a change in perception at 750mg.

You can never have enough research under your belt. Don't rush into it.

Thanks for the input. Im doing as much research as possible and there's no rush.

 

[Zoomzoom]

Therapeutic experiences are often the most difficult experiences. It's a good idea to abandon all expectation and desire for how the trip should go, and instead to go with it wherever it goes.

Naah I think I'm too chicken.

 

[The_Mowgs]

Naah I think I'm too chicken.

Why?

 

[Zoomzoom]

Why?

the list is loooong LOL

 

[Ancalagon]

That would be a bit difficult but will see what I can do. Would I be able to just sit inside my house or is it not really recommended?

You can do it alone. 1.5g to 2g should be fine. I would advise you to do it on a weekend, and also do it on a day when you won't be missed for a few hours. You are going to want to be able to switch your phone off or at least turn it on silent. Start in the morning, then by lunch time you will be fine again.

It takes about an hour to start working. From as little as 30 minutes you might notice some stuff. Perhaps your emotions will change a little, or you might notice visual effects. Usually it comes on in about an hour, sometimes 90 minutes. Depends on how much you have eaten before. I'd advise eating little to nothing before.

When it starts, it will quickly build to its maximum intensity - the peak. You should be peaking starting at about 90 minutes after eating the shrooms and it will last for 1.5 hours to 2 hours. After that, you have the come down.

The peak is when your thought patterns are most affected, and also when the visuals will be most pronounced. Try closing your eyes - you should get different visuals. You will have what are basically waking dreams.

It's normal to feel anxious about your first trip. In fact, it's normal to feel anxious about any trip. You are putting a powerful substance into your body. But, if you are feeling really hopeless, I probably wouldn't do them. They can amplify emotion, positive or negative. If you are feeling down or a little sad, but hopeful that you can make your life better, I think you'll be fine. If you are feeling nihilistic, stay away. Anxiety about your upcoming trip - completely normal.

Make sure that your environment is comfortable. You'll want a comfortable chair or a bed. Or both. You might move around during the trip.

EDIT: To make it more clear, yes your house is fine and in fact I'd recommend it, since it is where you are most comfortable. Get some pot plants to look at while you trip. Or something with an interesting pattern. Thatched roofs are cool to look at while tripping. Or even wooden fences. Or even just sit in your garden.

Are you intoxicated during the trip? Sort of. It's not like alcohol, but you will know you aren't sober. I would not want to drive, but you'd be fine to drive after a few hours. Your memory of your waking dreams will fade quickly, as with normal dreams, but you will remember most of the rest. Memory loss is not associated with shrooms - however, so much occurs so quickly, that your brain will just forget about it. It is like waking up after a long sleep.

Total time for the experience should be around 7 hours. One hour for it to "come up", 2 hour peak, a few hours come down. By 5 hours you will be able to respond to Whatsapp messages and hold conversations - you just won't want to. By 7 hours you should be 99% sober.

EDIT: The above is for a 2g dose. A 1g dose will take the same amount of time to come up but will last shorter and be less intense. Personally I'd go with 2g as a beginner. You might be frustrated if "nothing happens". But its up to you - don't do more than you feel comfortable doing. I would certainly not do more than 2g as a beginner.

 

[The_Mowgs]

You can do it alone. 1.5g to 2g should be fine. I would advise you to do it on a weekend, and also do it on a day when you won't be missed for a few hours. You are going to want to be able to switch your phone off or at least turn it on silent. Start in the morning, then by lunch time you will be fine again.

It takes about an hour to start working. From as little as 30 minutes you might notice some stuff. Perhaps your emotions will change a little, or you might notice visual effects. Usually it comes on in about an hour, sometimes 90 minutes. Depends on how much you have eaten before. I'd advise eating little to nothing before.

When it starts, it will quickly build to its maximum intensity - the peak. You should be peaking starting at about 90 minutes after eating the shrooms and it will last for 1.5 hours to 2 hours. After that, you have the come down.

The peak is when your thought patterns are most affected, and also when the visuals will be most pronounced. Try closing your eyes - you should get different visuals. You will have what are basically waking dreams.

It's normal to feel anxious about your first trip. In fact, it's normal to feel anxious about any trip. You are putting a powerful substance into your body. But, if you are feeling really hopeless, I probably wouldn't do them. They can amplify emotion, positive or negative. If you are feeling down or a little sad, but hopeful that you can make your life better, I think you'll be fine. If you are feeling nihilistic, stay away. Anxiety about your upcoming trip - completely normal.

Make sure that your environment is comfortable. You'll want a comfortable chair or a bed. Or both. You might move around during the trip.

EDIT: To make it more clear, yes your house is fine and in fact I'd recommend it, since it is where you are most comfortable. Get some pot plants to look at while you trip. Or something with an interesting pattern. Thatched roofs are cool to look at while tripping. Or even wooden fences. Or even just sit in your garden.

Are you intoxicated during the trip? Sort of. It's not like alcohol, but you will know you aren't sober. I would not want to drive, but you'd be fine to drive after a few hours. Your memory of your waking dreams will fade quickly, as with normal dreams, but you will remember most of the rest. Memory loss is not associated with shrooms - however, so much occurs so quickly, that your brain will just forget about it. It is like waking up after a long sleep.

Total time for the experience should be around 7 hours. One hour for it to "come up", 2 hour peak, a few hours come down. By 5 hours you will be able to respond to Whatsapp messages and hold conversations - you just won't want to. By 7 hours you should be 99% sober.

EDIT: The above is for a 2g dose. A 1g dose will take the same amount of time to come up but will last shorter and be less intense. Personally I'd go with 2g as a beginner. You might be frustrated if "nothing happens". But its up to you - don't do more than you feel comfortable doing. I would certainly not do more than 2g as a beginner.

Wow this was so helpful thanks.

 

[saor]

It's normal to feel anxious about your first trip. In fact, it's normal to feel anxious about any trip. You are putting a powerful substance into your body. But, if you are feeling really hopeless, I probably wouldn't do them. They can amplify emotion, positive or negative. If you are feeling down or a little sad, but hopeful that you can make your life better, I think you'll be fine. If you are feeling nihilistic, stay away. Anxiety about your upcoming trip - completely normal.

I get stomach discomfort and a kind of jaw shiver that I think are both from underlying anxiety that loosens up as the shrooms start working. When I first took I used to think it was my stomach reacting to the mushrooms, but now that I've sorta seen it for what it is, it's a sign I can use on subsequent trips to notice the anxiety and give it some attention and face it...and then it eases off and I relax more.

 

[Ancalagon]

Oh and expect some nausea. It's very common. 99% of people get it. But the nausea isn't even all that bad. Should fade by the time you start peaking.

 

[biometrics]

Do you need to take breaks in between like with lsd?

Can you extend a trip?

 

[eljosco99]

Do you need to take breaks in between like with lsd?

Can you extend a trip?

If you mean taking breaks due to the tolerance build up then yes. Even without that though I can't see myself tripping more than once a month.

You can extend a trip by dosing over a period of time, but as time goes on you will need to take as much as 2-3x the original amount to sustain an equivalent trip

 

[saor]

If you mean taking breaks due to the tolerance build up then yes. Even without that though I can't see myself tripping more than once a month.

Agreed. I go many months between trips (been over a year now) without thinking about doing it again. The experience is far too intense to warrant regular repeats. It's not repeatable in the way alcohol or cannabis are.

 

[Matt91]

Was it good though? I bought one in December and it’s been in storage since.

King Kushie sells it.

Yeah it was one of the single most powerful shroom experiences I've ever had - I enjoyed it but I did feel confused alot of the time, I wouldn't suggest doing something like that out of a safe "home" environment either.