The Syrian Conflict Thread

WaxLyrical said:
The US leads the coalition against ISIS which means that all supporting countries follow their policy of just keeping them in check which I think is preposterous.
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The truth is the truth. Saudi Arabia and Qatar want Assad gone. They're the ones who started funding sunni insurgents in Syria in the first place, and one of the groups they were funding turned into ISIS. They see no reason to kill it before it's done its job, which is to oust Assad.

I mean half of Europe and the Middle East are tackling these terrorists who seem to be recruiting normal civilians with no training by the truck loads, yet this war has been going on for years.
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What? No.

US defeated Sadaam in a matter of days.
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US wanted to defeat Saddam. That's precisely the point.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_intervention_against_ISIL
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So if Russia actually turfs ISIS out of Syria, you'll admit you bought into the lies?
 
Mach III said:
Because, that wasn't their true agenda.
Their true agenda was to oust Assad, and (possibly inadvertently) creating ISIS.
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You are wrong in that hypothesis, ISIS is older than the Syria conflict, it was created by the inept and idiotic policies the US formulated in Iraq post 2003.
 
Xarog said:
The truth is the truth. Saudi Arabia and Qatar want Assad gone. They're the ones who started funding sunni insurgents in Syria in the first place, and one of the groups they were funding turned into ISIS. They see no reason to kill it before it's done its job, which is to oust Assad.


What? No.


US wanted to defeat Saddam. That's precisely the point.


So if Russia actually turfs ISIS out of Syria, you'll admit you bought into the lies?
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1. Except that now Isis has moved their interests elsewhere namely Iraq and god knows where else so your point about getting rid of Assad is wrong.

2. Isis are recruiting from all over the world or are you not aware?

3.Quite a bold statement to make about Russia's powers and yes it will expose the lies.
 
Dave123 said:
You are wrong in that hypothesis, ISIS is older than the Syria conflict, it was created by the inept and idiotic policies the US formulated in Iraq post 2003.
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You're right, it does appear that it is older than the Syria conflict.
 
The_Assimilator said:
Only Russia would build a navy on an inland sea.
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Publicly Held Company «Zelenodolsk Plant named after A.M. Gorky» is one of the leading enterprises in Russia which celebrated its 110-year anniversary of its industrial activity in 2005. Throughout the history of its experience in shipbuilding the PHC „Zelenodolsk Plant named after A.M. Gorky“ has established a reputation as a reliable business partner. Successful location in the center of Russia on the bank of the Volga River enables the shipyard to deliver ships and vessels to any region of the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, and the North Sea basins using inland waterways.

Gepard Class built by above and the following in Caspian Fleet's service: Tatarstan (691) & Dagestan (693)
 
WaxLyrical said:
1. Except that now Isis has moved their interests elsewhere namely Iraq and god knows where else so your point about getting rid of Assad is wrong.

2. Isis are recruiting from all over the world or are you not aware?

3.Quite a bold statement to make about Russia's powers and yes it will expose the lies.
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Syria's ambassador to Russia says 40% of ISIS wiped out in one week.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/russia-willing-to-work-with-us-on-air-strikes/35697266

Come on, a nation that forces their children to say that they 'pledge their allegiance to the flag', Has spent 4 years there?
Russia 1 week?
Let's imagine America wiped out 40% of isis in that time (which they didn't).. You yourself said it appears that they growing.

That would mean that Russian military is 99.5% more efficient than the USA's military.

Also, have you heard of the hacktivist group anonymous? Did you know that they will be jailed if caught by the USA? Yet, they spend some of their time shutting down these recruitment that you speak of.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/10/technology/anonymous-isis-hack-twitter/

USA are not the good guys.
 
grantza said:
not spoon feeding any more komrade ganda

google "syrian conflict" yourself
google "syrian refugees" yourself
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We're not the ones making spurious claims. Just admit that you don't have such facts and we'll understand.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
You're actually wrong, too. It was created in Jordan to oust the monarchy.
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While you are correct, they did nothing of note between 1999 and 2003 that was any sort of danger to the region, they only came to prominence and power after 2003 in post invasion Iraq.
 
Dave123 said:
While you are correct, they did nothing of note between 1999 and 2003 that was any sort of danger to the region, they only came to prominence and power after 2003 in post invasion Iraq.
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True, it was a technical point.

It's just that the wingnut narrative is all about the US 'creating' ISIS, which simply isn't true. It's much more accurate to say the stupid war created a power vacuum which the group exploited.
 
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