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The Toyota Supra Thread
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It's the motor industry in South Africa in general. Recall reading how it was cheaper to import a Toyota from Australia (that had been manufactured in SA), than it was to buy it locally.
Forgive the pun, but they're taking you guys for a ride.
I saw 4 M2's on sunday.... I really love the M2 but honestly ill rather take a supra.
they both incredible cars. I just have a soft spot for toyota (my first car) and i love unique cars
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Nitro Yellow for me.
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MotorWeek road test
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That's it. Got to have that look sorted.
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New Toyota Supra Gets Akrapovic Titanium Exhaust
We know the new Toyota Supra will be tinkered with permanently from various tuners around the world so it comes as no surprise that European exhaust specialists Akrapovic has just released a cool new muffler for the Sports car.
Akrapovic is such a household name that many big companies want to be associated with their brand. BMW, Volkswagen, and Renault all have factory-fitted systems from them. and not the new A90 Supra gets a slip-on muffler with ECE Type Approval and CARB compliance.
https://www.zero2turbo.com/2019/07/new-toyota-supra-gets-akrapovic-titanium-exhaust.html
We know the new Toyota Supra will be tinkered with permanently from various tuners around the world so it comes as no surprise that European exhaust specialists Akrapovic has just released a cool new muffler for the Sports car.
Akrapovic is such a household name that many big companies want to be associated with their brand. BMW, Volkswagen, and Renault all have factory-fitted systems from them. and not the new A90 Supra gets a slip-on muffler with ECE Type Approval and CARB compliance.
https://www.zero2turbo.com/2019/07/new-toyota-supra-gets-akrapovic-titanium-exhaust.html
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2019 Toyota GR Supra driven in South Africa part 1 - TheMotoristSA
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2019 Toyota Supra driven on track in South Africa - TheMotoristSA
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LibeRebil review
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New Toyota Supra Sounds Angry With Milltek Exhaust
The new Toyota Supra has been given a hard time on social media channels for sounding like a BMW which was expected but what if you want it to sound a little more well, Supra?
Milltek Sport presented its new exhaust system for the Supra at the Goodwood Festival of Speed and as you can hear in the videos below, the exhaust definitely gives it extra character.
https://www.zero2turbo.com/2019/07/new-toyota-supra-sounds-angry-with-milltek-exhaust.html
The new Toyota Supra has been given a hard time on social media channels for sounding like a BMW which was expected but what if you want it to sound a little more well, Supra?
Milltek Sport presented its new exhaust system for the Supra at the Goodwood Festival of Speed and as you can hear in the videos below, the exhaust definitely gives it extra character.
https://www.zero2turbo.com/2019/07/new-toyota-supra-sounds-angry-with-milltek-exhaust.html
not buying a zupra for 1.1bar, forget it.I would rather use that money and try get a proper old school supra.
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buy new supra and 2jz it
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Toyota Supra GR (2019) Launch Review
Verdict
Should you buy the all-new Toyota Supra? A low-slung 2-door coupe is a niche product, yes, but the newcomer excels at being a smile inducer and a competent daily driver. There's a boot with enough capacity to get some luggage in and plenty of convenience features. In Normal mode, it's remarkably civilised and restrained in and around urban environments. However, you can easily engage Sport mode and let fellow road users know all about your glorious howling straight-6 engine. There's enough grunt to see off other road users this side of a Jaguar F-Type V6 (one of its key rivals) too, but straight-line prowess is not this car's raison d'etre. The focus is on delivering driving thrills: an art that is slowly, but surely, being lost.
We have some gripes, but they're minor. The infotainment menus have a distinct BMW look and feel about them. The key, too, is a BMW unit and so is the infotainment controls. Thankfully the digital dashboard is a unique item and really looks the part.
Despite the Supra and Z4 M40i being closely related, they do feel different to drive. The latter's handling is not as precise as the Supra's. Whereas its rear tyres are prone to scrabbling when you abuse the throttle pedal, the Supra is constantly planted and sure-footed, proving this is not just a re-skinned Z4. The 2 vehicles share a platform, engine and transmission, but Toyota and BMW have applied their own settings to the cars' suspension, active damping, differential and power steering. Put us on the spot and we'd say the Supra is the more involving car to drive...
The best part is the fact that Toyota has badged this Supra as GR, which means there's more to come from the package. The Japanese market receives a 2.0-litre turbocharged 4-cylinder Supra (there's no word on whether it will come to South Africa, but it might!) and, given how good the newcomer's chassis is, we wouldn't be surprised to see a hotter and more potent Supra with a GRMN badge before the end of 2020.
Toyota Supra Price in South Africa (July 2019)
Toyota GR Supra Track R953 000
Toyota GR Supra (Prominent Red) R1 072 300
Toyota GR Supra (Metallic) R1 082 300
Toyota GR Supra (Matte Grey) R 1 092 300
A 4-services/80 000km service plan is provided as well as a 3-year/100 000km Warranty. Customers can also purchase extended service plans via their Toyota dealer.
https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/toyota-supra-gr-2019-launch-review/47086/
Verdict
Should you buy the all-new Toyota Supra? A low-slung 2-door coupe is a niche product, yes, but the newcomer excels at being a smile inducer and a competent daily driver. There's a boot with enough capacity to get some luggage in and plenty of convenience features. In Normal mode, it's remarkably civilised and restrained in and around urban environments. However, you can easily engage Sport mode and let fellow road users know all about your glorious howling straight-6 engine. There's enough grunt to see off other road users this side of a Jaguar F-Type V6 (one of its key rivals) too, but straight-line prowess is not this car's raison d'etre. The focus is on delivering driving thrills: an art that is slowly, but surely, being lost.
We have some gripes, but they're minor. The infotainment menus have a distinct BMW look and feel about them. The key, too, is a BMW unit and so is the infotainment controls. Thankfully the digital dashboard is a unique item and really looks the part.
Despite the Supra and Z4 M40i being closely related, they do feel different to drive. The latter's handling is not as precise as the Supra's. Whereas its rear tyres are prone to scrabbling when you abuse the throttle pedal, the Supra is constantly planted and sure-footed, proving this is not just a re-skinned Z4. The 2 vehicles share a platform, engine and transmission, but Toyota and BMW have applied their own settings to the cars' suspension, active damping, differential and power steering. Put us on the spot and we'd say the Supra is the more involving car to drive...
The best part is the fact that Toyota has badged this Supra as GR, which means there's more to come from the package. The Japanese market receives a 2.0-litre turbocharged 4-cylinder Supra (there's no word on whether it will come to South Africa, but it might!) and, given how good the newcomer's chassis is, we wouldn't be surprised to see a hotter and more potent Supra with a GRMN badge before the end of 2020.
Toyota Supra Price in South Africa (July 2019)
Toyota GR Supra Track R953 000
Toyota GR Supra (Prominent Red) R1 072 300
Toyota GR Supra (Metallic) R1 082 300
Toyota GR Supra (Matte Grey) R 1 092 300
A 4-services/80 000km service plan is provided as well as a 3-year/100 000km Warranty. Customers can also purchase extended service plans via their Toyota dealer.
https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/toyota-supra-gr-2019-launch-review/47086/
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Carshop First Drive: Toyota Supra GR
A so-so verdict
But first a caveat – this is a (very long) first drive based on just two days with the new Supra and carrying a lot of emotion into the experience, despite trying not to. There are 200 Supras allocated to our country for 2019 and if you act fast one of those could be yours.
Yes, elsewhere there exists a turbocharged 4-cylinder 2-litre version – not here, it isn’t coming. And if you think slapping a 2JZ into a new Supra is wise, then my verdict is not going to sit well with you. Because I think that’s a terrible idea and you’d be better off using the B58 as a base.
At R1,072,300 the Supra costs just about the same as the BMW Z4 Roadster M40i and for the most part is an identical drivers experience. I can believe that during the gestation period, BMW most likely effected Toyota’s changes for the Supra and thought, “Ooh, that’s quite nice – ‘apply to all’ and the Z4 as a result is a smidge more athletic than was originally planned – bringing the tolerances much in line with the Toyota. Or not, with collaboration this close there’s no way of knowing for sure.
As a Supra lover (and you should take my opinion as such), I’m still disappointed we didn’t get a more different interior, a dashboard – or a manual gearbox and dare I say a handbrake lever – but the realist in me has made peace with the fact that especially the latter two would have cost the kind of premium that might have robbed us of a Supra to begin with. Economics, you bastard you!
So now we have this, the 2019 Toyota Supra GR, an excellent sports car with the best engine of its nature. Is it enough for me? Yes, I guess. Is it enough for the purist? I’m afraid it will never be, but I do think expectations were far too lofty to begin with. As for everyone else, I believe the Supra is a sharp track experience with gorgeous looks that aren’t derivative of BMW in any way, and a respectful interpretation of the Japanese sports car’s legacy.
Are there better cars in this segment? Sadly, yes – the Porsche Cayman and BMW M2 Competition pose serious threat. Would I still like one? Bloody hell, YES I bloody would!
https://www.carshop.co.za/reviews/new-toyota-supra-gr-driven-south-africa
A so-so verdict
But first a caveat – this is a (very long) first drive based on just two days with the new Supra and carrying a lot of emotion into the experience, despite trying not to. There are 200 Supras allocated to our country for 2019 and if you act fast one of those could be yours.
Yes, elsewhere there exists a turbocharged 4-cylinder 2-litre version – not here, it isn’t coming. And if you think slapping a 2JZ into a new Supra is wise, then my verdict is not going to sit well with you. Because I think that’s a terrible idea and you’d be better off using the B58 as a base.
At R1,072,300 the Supra costs just about the same as the BMW Z4 Roadster M40i and for the most part is an identical drivers experience. I can believe that during the gestation period, BMW most likely effected Toyota’s changes for the Supra and thought, “Ooh, that’s quite nice – ‘apply to all’ and the Z4 as a result is a smidge more athletic than was originally planned – bringing the tolerances much in line with the Toyota. Or not, with collaboration this close there’s no way of knowing for sure.
As a Supra lover (and you should take my opinion as such), I’m still disappointed we didn’t get a more different interior, a dashboard – or a manual gearbox and dare I say a handbrake lever – but the realist in me has made peace with the fact that especially the latter two would have cost the kind of premium that might have robbed us of a Supra to begin with. Economics, you bastard you!
So now we have this, the 2019 Toyota Supra GR, an excellent sports car with the best engine of its nature. Is it enough for me? Yes, I guess. Is it enough for the purist? I’m afraid it will never be, but I do think expectations were far too lofty to begin with. As for everyone else, I believe the Supra is a sharp track experience with gorgeous looks that aren’t derivative of BMW in any way, and a respectful interpretation of the Japanese sports car’s legacy.
Are there better cars in this segment? Sadly, yes – the Porsche Cayman and BMW M2 Competition pose serious threat. Would I still like one? Bloody hell, YES I bloody would!
https://www.carshop.co.za/reviews/new-toyota-supra-gr-driven-south-africa