The Toyota Supra Thread

DRIVEN: Is the new Supra more than just a BMW Z4 with a Toyota badge?

Would I buy one?

Hell yeah, I would, although my biggest reservation is there's no room for my daughter, nor her car seat in the rear.

It's similarly priced to the Mustang, although this is not its direct rival. Instead, its biggest competition would be the Nissan 370Z, BMW M2 Competition, or a Porsche Cayman.

I was also expecting pricing to fall just under one bar for the top of the range money, because if you save up some more, you're stepping into Lexus RC F territory. It launches here in SA at the end of this month, by the way. Overall, it's a true driver's car and something even Smokey Nagata would be proud of.

Toyota says they will have 200 units available for this year, and probably the same number, or even less, for 2020. There isn't really a huge waiting period, unless you want the most expensive model in the new Matte Storm Grey body colour. Then you'll be added to a waiting list until May next year, as the automaker only receives one of those cars in that colour per month.

Tetsuya Tada, chief engineer of the Toyota GR Supra, said of the car: "Being asked to make a sports car that offers the ultimate, pure driving pleasure felt like a mandate from heaven, telling me to "make a Supra!"

"I needed to deliver a car that offers a seemingly limitless sense of control, a car that will meet expectations and delight even hardcore fans.

"The new Supra is not simply a revival, though; only those core engine and rear-wheel drive elements have been carried over. As the name Supra suggests, I was determined to deliver a 'supreme fun-to-drive' car that could only be made in the modern era."

Tada has most certainly done so, and that alone makes the new GR Supra worth every cent. It's one of the best and one of my top three cars I have driven this year. I want one, in white... or red, or silver.

https://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModel...an-just-a-bmw-z4-with-a-toyota-badge-20190722
 
DRIVEN: Toyota GR Supra

My memory of the Toyota Supra is a pretty standard one: using a grey PlayStation controller to pilot a pixelated Mk4 (with very little skill) round the simplest tracks I could find in 1997’s Gran Turismo.

My fascination with this particular car was deepened after the Supra appeared in The Fast and the Furious in 2001. For many, this was the movie that kicked off the “JDM” craze that took hold of the automotive world in the years that followed. The poster car for this movement was, of course, an A80/Mk4 Toyota Supra decked out in a Bomex body kit finished in the candy pearl orange hue made famous by the Lamborghini Diablo GT.

What it does lack, however, is a certain personality. Sure, the Supra ticks plenty of boxes in the performance department, but there’s a driver-to-car connection – the sort of feeling you have piloting certain other Japanese sportscars, such as the Honda Civic Type R and Mazda MX-5 – missing from the equation. In all fairness, though, living up to the fabled badge was never going to be easy.

Ultimately, the new Supra comes close. So close, in fact, that adding a manual gearbox, more feelsome steering and a more characterful exhaust note would likely result in a Supra capable of matching its legendary predecessors. BMW bits and all.

FAST FACTS

Model: Toyota GR Supra
Price: R1 072 300
Engine: 3,0-litre, straight-six, turbopetrol
Power: 250 kW
Torque: 500 N.m
0-100 km/h: 4,3 seconds
Top Speed: 250 km/h
Fuel Consumption: 7,7 L/100 km
CO2: 177 g/km
Transmission: Eight-speed automatic
Maintenance Plan: Four-service/80 000 km

https://www.carmag.co.za/car-reviews/driving-impressions/driven-toyota-gr-supra/
 
Old name, new groove - we get to grips with the Toyota Supra

If you love your cars built tough, and with exquisite attention to detail, you go to Magna Steyr, or at least that’s what the world’s leading vehicle manufacturers do when they’re looking to create something special. The Mercedes-Benz G-Class, the Jaguar I-PACE, and now the BMW Z4 and the Toyota GR Supra - they’re all being churned out from the same manufacturing facilities run by the Austrian firm.

There’s been lots of hype around the latest Toyota GR Supra, particularly around how it’s “too much BMW under the skin” but, I wonder, when did BMW become known for making shoddy sports cars? Sure the Z4 and Supra do share common parts, but so do things like the Touareg and the Urus. Heck, we’re living in an age where Apple prefer Samsung screens.

So, cast out all doubts you have around the Supra being too much BMW and start to think of it as a car that would not exist if it were not for the collaborative effort of the two companies in question.

A bit of background

The Toyota Supra disappeared from Toyota’s model line up in the early 2000s and, while the GT86 has risen to occasion in recent years to satisfy driving enthusiasts, there’s always been a missing halo sports product in Toyota’s line-up. And, ever since the late Paul Walker and crew made the car famous in The Fast and the Furious (2002), the gen-four Supra has proven itself as a highly-tunable car that can easily perform time attacks as well as it can perform drag runs.

When BMW and Toyota decided to build a new sports car together, about five years ago, they initially wanted to use the old S55 in-line six made famous in the 1M coupe but, after a bit of testing and input from Toyota, it was confirmed that the B58 from BMW’s engine catalogue would work better. You’ll find this “Supra” unit in the M140i, the M240i, etc. And, before you ask, you cannot take your Supra to BMW for a service

Is it worth a million bucks?

Yes, it is.

Ok, so it’s tough to quantify the feeling a car gives you in money terms, so forget about drawing comparisons to used cars or to other cars that you can have for the “same” money. The Supra feels fast (and it is fast), accelerating from a standstill to 100km/h in 4.3 seconds. It’ll top out at 250km/h too. In fact, this is the fastest Toyota they’ve ever made, and that’s truly something noteworthy. Not only is it fast, it handles with ease, it’s stable at high speeds and has enough tech and presence to keep most people satisfied for many, many years to come.

We had a slight issue on our car, though, with a rear-right tyre blowout at speed on the highway, incidentally only a few days after another journalist had experienced a similar blowout in a BMW Z4 that was running the same make and size tyres. Toyota say it’s an isolated incident, and Michelin say the tyres should be sent to them for testing. We’ll leave that to the OEMs handle and we’ll report back on it once we know more.

Nevertheless, if you have about R1.2 million to spare and you want something exciting, with presence and street-cred of note, you won’t go wrong with a Toyota GR Supra.

The vehicle comes with a four-services/80 000km Service Plan and three-year/100 000km warranty.

https://www.iol.co.za/motoring/late...e-get-to-grips-with-the-toyota-supra-29813334
 
I was reading an interview where they said there head of ///M said was a possibility of putting the s58 engine in the supra but Toyota never came out and asked, would that have gone over better with the supra fans if they launched wit that engine :unsure:
 
Hmmmm...how much is a Porsche Cayman GT4? If just a R200k difference, I will take the Cayman
 
Here's a 2020 Toyota Supra Marked Up to Nearly $200,000

There’s regular crazy and there’s Florida crazy. In the last day alone, we’ve seen terrestrial manatees, ass-eating bacteria, and blatant electricity theft all out of the Sunshine State. But all of that is nothing compared to the markup on this 2020 Supra.

Until this classified ad from Toyota Kia of Vero Beach, Florida showed up, at least. We’re no strangers to stiff dealer markups on exciting new cars. They’re not always fair, but when supply’s low, demand is gonna be high. But just how high can it get?

We were amazed to find out.

It turns out that this dealer is not selling this Supra (which starts at $49,995) up 50 percent. They’re not even marking it up 100 percent. They’ve added $138,819 to the price tag of this fully loaded Supra Premium in Renaissance Red. There have been some pretty high markups on this car already, but this is absurdity.

https://jalopnik.com/heres-a-2020-toyota-supra-marked-up-to-nearly-200-000-1836757761

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