Travelling without partner

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Rather go to zanzibar, Madagascar, Mozambique, reunion island. I.e places that you can both go to in your budget. Also places that you wouldn't really want to go to once you are in your 50s and 60s as their not as "touristy". Europe is generally easy to travel around if you are older.
 
Pitbull said:
This made me lol HARD!!!

He posted this thread knowing exactly what he is getting himself into and wanting you guys to approve it. Don't come here with your high horse. As I said earlier, if you can go 4 weeks without getting laid Good on you. Unlike yourself I don't have to satisfy myself. And there is nothing wrong with that. I would rather take that hot German chick home and bonk her than laying in the bed jerking off at the thought of what could have been. Different strokes for different folks I suppose...
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Then do not project your decisions onto the OP, and berate him for having his own reasons. He's given a fairly clear picture of why he wants to go without his SO, yet you're the only one insistent that sex is the motivation.
 
Pitbull said:
Then stay at home. If you're going with a mate you there will be European shags involved. So you have 2 choices: 1. Stay with you current GF and use that R 50k for something nice to spoil yourself. 2. Leave your GF and go have the time of your life in Europe.

Nothing grey about those 2 scenarios.
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What Pitbull said.

(He's helped me score once, so his advice is solid.)
 
Pitbull said:
This made me lol HARD!!!

He posted this thread knowing exactly what he is getting himself into and wanting you guys to approve it. Don't come here with your high horse. As I said earlier, if you can go 4 weeks without getting laid Good on you. Unlike yourself I don't have to satisfy myself. And there is nothing wrong with that. I would rather take that hot German chick home and bonk her than laying in the bed jerking off at the thought of what could have been. Different strokes for different folks I suppose...
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He's never once said anything about going over there to sleep with every chick that will look at him twice. That's you projecting what you think travelling is about onto him.

And I'm not on a high horse. I don't care if you want to sleep around, but it's a douche thing to do if you're in a committed relationship with someone. It's quite scary how flippant you are about infidelity, tbh.

Voicy said:
What Pitbull said.

(He's helped me score once, so his advice is solid.)
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Quiet you, you've got Norwegian girls to focus on.
 
OP, you should do what makes you happiest. Travel or your gf? Weigh your choices carefully.
 
Singal said:
OP, you should do what makes you happiest. Travel or your gf? Weigh your choices carefully.
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Exactly my point. One or the other, the OP seems to want it both ways. That will not happen. So choose carefully and live with your choice.
 
Ask yourself how you'd feel if the situation was reversed, OP. If she decided to go on a Euro Trip with a friend of hers, and left you back at home sitting on your thumb.

In my books, that'd suck.

Partners don't do that to each other. If you're even seriously contemplating this, it casts a bit of doubt on how you actually feel about her.
 
...unless of course you want to break up with her because she SUCKS with money and will bleed you dry one day.
 
Hamster said:
...unless of course you want to break up with her because she SUCKS with money and will bleed you dry one day.
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Exactly my point. The old saying '**** or get off the pot' comes to mind, around the five year mark. If our OP has a fear of commitment, but also can't bring himself to break up with somebody who is quite obviously a significant other just based on time, then I think that's a more serious discussion to be had here.

That R50 000 for the trip could buy a very nice ring, and pay for a deposit on a wedding venue ;) Alternatively, have that hard discussion, break up with her, and go to Euro to get the fresh air into your life you'll need.

Like everything else in life, it's a fork in the road with massive repercussions, so don't take the decision lightly, or only focus on the superficial issue at hand.

Personally, wife > Euro trip (which can always come later). At five+ years, you owe her that much at least.
 
...plenty of fish in the Mediterranean Sea my friend. Plenty.
 
Have you considered giving her an interest-free loan for the trip? I.e. you pay it now, and she pays you back.

I see you said you can justify spending R 50,000 on the trip (for you alone) but not R 100,000 (for the both of you) - reading between the lines you're saying she's not worth spending as much on as yourself. Do you truly love her? Do you see yourself spending your life with her? If so, and you can afford the R 100,000, take her with even if it IS at her expense and build some awesome memories together. You both want to go really badly, whether you go or not things are not looking great now. Either you or her is going to be left very upset in the long run.
 
The OP seems to have a problem with the GFs financial sense, he should ask himself where this leaves their relationship now and down the road. Doesn't sound like it has a definite future.
 
Within context of OP's relationship, he seems to want to address his frustrations around finance with his long term girlfriend by leaving her at home while he goes on an amazing holiday without her.

Seems like a petty way to prove a point without resolving the issue.

You will come back from your amazing holiday to a girlfriend that has a reason to be passive-aggressive in the future.

My opinion: Work with her to resolve the financial management issue first, and give her time to save up to join you.

Then everybody wins.

Or carry on meeting childish money managing behaviour with childish exclusion behaviour and see where that gets you.
 
It's curious how many people have completely dissected this guy's relationship without even knowing all the details. A real bunch of doctor Phils we have on this forum.
 
foxtrotunicorncharliekilo said:
Hello all, I need some advice that will span wealth, leisure and relationships.

I want to do a 3 week Contiki tour through Europe with mate.

Problem is I have a GF and she can't afford to go (not because she is poor but because she is bad with money).

Do you think this is unfair and will I be pushing my luck if I go without her? She says it is OK but I kind of know deep down she won't be happy at all.

I am kind of in two minds about this trip, not only the GF but also its going to cost 50k and I have already been to Europe once before (was freaking awesome - longing to go back). I have the cash (and paid of car, pension etc) I don't own property as I'm toying in emigrating in the next 2 years.
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Sell the car and take her along, don't be a selfish dick :twisted:
 
Go without her (you want to anyway else you wouldn't ask). They say time heals everything so stay an extra three weeks just to be sure.
 
Oj0 said:
Have you considered giving her an interest-free loan for the trip? I.e. you pay it now, and she pays you back.
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This is a great idea. And if she falls behind on payments, you can point out that since you threw money into a hole, it's now time to throw some other things into some new holes.
 
While OP explores the world, the world will explore his GF. ;)
 
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