Travelling without partner

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I have done private trips & Contiki tours before.

Much prefer tours if I am going for a short time (<3 weeks) as you see so much more, less stressful and planning, meet like minded people and party a bit. Accommodation is also great. I guess they get good deals as they bring so many customers through the hotels (100's per week)

@pitbull flights 12k, contiki 20k, visas 2k, 17k or so spending = R51k

Still, thanks for advice chaps.
 
Pitbull said:
Traveling within Europe is cheap. Accommodation is the sink. R 50k won't get you guys far anyway depending on how long you going and where you sleeping at night.

Just getting there and back you looking at about R12k minimum. So that leaves you with R 38k for food, travel and accommodation. Eish...
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You'd be surprised what you can do in Europe on a budget. R12K for flights for one person? You can do much better than that (not quite half but close) through Expedia. Same thing for accommodation, you can get some great bargains through Airbnb.

@ OP- Here's a different perspective, go with your mate and have a great time. You'll be able to Contiki/travel it up without sticking your dick in a range of hot women with questionable morals, that is if you're serious about your 5 year relationship. The added bonus is you'll be a pretty epic wingman for your (I'm assuming) single mate. If you're not serious and a good dicking happens, come back and tell your girlfriend that you couldn't keep it in your pants and take things from there.

I spent a good part of my early 20s longing for Europe after visiting in my teens. I delayed many trips because my GF at the time couldn't make it due to budget (even with my help, her family was terrible with money). She made me feel too terrible, and I regret it to this day (was with her for nearly 4 years btw).

I'm making up for it by travelling now, but it's much harder when you see the debit orders for the bond (and other related costs) go off on the 25th of each month. :(
 
5 years, so either use that money for a wedding or breakup with her and go for the trip. one of two options
 
What is her personality like in this regard, on a smaller scale? Does she get annoyed if you go away for a weekend with your friends? Can you spend time with them without her throwing a hissy fit etc.? This should tell you how she'll be for a trip like this, which is basically just a magnified version of what I mentioned above.

Tad frightening that Pitbull considers it a given that you'll be sleeping around when away, though. :wtf:

From a personal perspective my SO spent 2 weeks in Europe last year with a Contiki group. Not a single fsck was given that I couldn't go with.
 
Just tell her work is sending you abroad for a month to work on a project.

Once you land back in SA hide from her until the month is up.

Problem solved! ;)
 
You can go. She'll dearly make you pay for it. I can just imagine the guilt trips :)

Not worth IMO.
 
OrbitalDawn said:
What is her personality like in this regard, on a smaller scale? Does she get annoyed if you go away for a weekend with your friends? Can you spend time with them without her throwing a hissy fit etc.? This should tell you how she'll be for a trip like this, which is basically just a magnified version of what I mentioned above.

Tad frightening that Pitbull considers it a given that you'll be sleeping around when away, though. :wtf:

From a personal perspective my SO spent 2 weeks in Europe last year with a Contiki group. Not a single fsck was given that I couldn't go with.
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My first trip I actually went alone and she didn't have too much of a problem with it but that was easy to justify as it was my first time overseas. She usually doesn't mind when I go on boys nights. I only hear it was a problem 3 weeks later when we argue lol.

I have been on a few Contikis and its not a giant drunken orgy as some people paint it to be. Depends on the group I suppose. Out of the group (between 30 and 50) there are loads of people who want to party 24/7 and then there are those that go to bed early so that they are fresh to sight see the next day. It would be pretty easy to get laid if one wanted to but obviously most don't.
 
foxtrotunicorncharliekilo said:
Hello all, I need some advice that will span wealth, leisure and relationships.

I want to do a 3 week Contiki tour through Europe with mate.

Problem is I have a GF and she can't afford to go (not because she is poor but because she is bad with money).

Do you think this is unfair and will I be pushing my luck if I go without her? She says it is OK but I kind of know deep down she won't be happy at all.

I am kind of in two minds about this trip, not only the GF but also its going to cost 50k and I have already been to Europe once before (was freaking awesome - longing to go back). I have the cash (and paid of car, pension etc) I don't own property as I'm toying in emigrating in the next 2 years.
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Brah - don't be a foxtrotuniformcharliekilo-er.
Take her with you and pay for it. If she's not worth it, then why are you with her?
 
OrbitalDawn said:
What is her personality like in this regard, on a smaller scale? Does she get annoyed if you go away for a weekend with your friends? Can you spend time with them without her throwing a hissy fit etc.? This should tell you how she'll be for a trip like this, which is basically just a magnified version of what I mentioned above.

Tad frightening that Pitbull considers it a given that you'll be sleeping around when away, though. :wtf:

From a personal perspective my SO spent 2 weeks in Europe last year with a Contiki group. Not a single fsck was given that I couldn't go with.
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You been to Europe?

You get laid there without even trying, especially in England and Germany. No way I would go a 3 week stint without tapping anything. Just assuming it's natural to want to bonk a few Europeans while drinking/partying. What a stupid trip it would be going with a mate and not hooking up with women :confused:
 
eehellfire said:
Brah - don't be a foxtrotuniformcharliekilo-er.
Take her with you and pay for it. If she's not worth it, then why are you with her?
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I can afford 50k, not 100k.

Like I said earlier I kind of knew the answer just wanted other peoples opinion. Will have to sacrifice travelling :'(
 
I don't see it as a problem. You're in a financial situation that allows you to take this trip. As long as you are honest about your intentions both home and away, there's nothing to concern yourself over.

The other side of the coin is that if you don't go, it will only be because of her. You may end up resenting her for it.
 
Pitbull said:
You been to Europe?

You get laid there without even trying, especially in England and Germany. No way I would go a 3 week stint without tapping anything. Just assuming it's natural to want to bonk a few Europeans while drinking/partying. What a stupid trip it would be going with a mate and not hooking up with women :confused:
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I have been to Europe on a large tour. Maybe 2 or 3 people out of 50 bonked. It isn't quite like the movie...
 
Buy a ticket on the Bazbus and backpack through South Africa. Take gf + friends (cheap enough for other people to join) and have a party. Save up and go backpack through Europe when she can come along.
 
Go dude, you have to, you owe it to yourself. She will still be here when you come back. As you say, make the best of your 20's before it's gone. You will regret not going one day and might end up resenting her for it. Go ,go, go!
 
When the the cats away the mice want to play...
 
foxtrotunicorncharliekilo said:
Hello all, I need some advice that will span wealth, leisure and relationships.

I want to do a 3 week Contiki tour through Europe with mate.

Problem is I have a GF and she can't afford to go (not because she is poor but because she is bad with money).

Do you think this is unfair and will I be pushing my luck if I go without her? She says it is OK but I kind of know deep down she won't be happy at all.

I am kind of in two minds about this trip, not only the GF but also its going to cost 50k and I have already been to Europe once before (was freaking awesome - longing to go back). I have the cash (and paid of car, pension etc) I don't own property as I'm toying in emigrating in the next 2 years.
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Always go with your gut feeling. If you're in two minds, don't go.
 
foxtrotunicorncharliekilo said:
I have been to Europe on a large tour. Maybe 2 or 3 people out of 50 bonked. It isn't quite like the movie...
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Not saying it's like the movies :D

Given I have never travelled in a group setup like you're planning. But in all the times I have been to Europe there has not been a binge drinking session that ended without women being chatted up (Given it has not always ended up in getting laid) But women there are nothing like women here in SA. If you are having a blast in Europe even for a week without getting laid there is only 2 reasons why: 1. You don't want to get laid (because you will get plenty of opportunities). You not getting out enough which defeats the purpose of traveling.

If you ok with spanking the monkey while there and not get laid good for you. No way I can go even 2 weeks without a shag :o
 
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