Ubuntu 11.10

ngadao08 said:
Sorry to barge in Like this.

I would like to know what the difference is between Linux Ubuntu and Linux Mint? Which one is better to get?

Also can both of these use Wine?
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Linux Mint is Ubuntu that has been customized to be more "out-of-the-box" user friendly. Both will run wine just fine, I suggest you use playonlinux. you can install from the command line with the following command:

Code: 
sudo apt-get install playonlinux
 
Always have done a clean install of Ubuntu, never had problems with it that way. The one and only time I did upgrade rather than a clean install, it borked everything, and had to do a clean install anyway.

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I'm pretty impressed so far. The GUI has received some more polish, it's slick...what's not to like?

Well done Mark & team!

*Now MyWorld can upgrade/clean install for the kids and wife again. :D
 
Upgrading to 11.10 now. The thing I like the most is the ability to use both my screens without the Nvidia tool. Displays-> !Mirror screens -> Set resolution.
I see it's got the ability to "upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10" when I'm on the live cd. Seeing how that works,

Little update:
The installer crashed at the end, but it seems to have successfully upgraded to 11.10.
The dual screens thingy has also now disappeared ??
 
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kingrob said:
I'm pretty impressed so far. The GUI has received some more polish, it's slick...what's not to like?

Well done Mark & team!

*Now MyWorld can upgrade/clean install for the kids and wife again. :D
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I haven't tried Unity yet (I'm still on 10.04). Is it easy to pick up or am I going to punch a hole in my screen out of sheer frustration and resort to terminal for everything like I do under KDE?
 
porchrat said:
I haven't tried Unity yet (I'm still on 10.04). Is it easy to pick up or am I going to punch a hole in my screen out of sheer frustration and resort to terminal for everything like I do under KDE?
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It's easy, and a good concept, but on a few occasions I did almost punch both my screens out. You get used to it though.
 
I want to download and install the new version - I really do.. I know I'll be overwhelmed by the beauty and splendor. I know I'll love the interface. I'll love the way all my hardware drivers are installed automatically. But then I'll start playing with different apps, download some media player or another random program, run into missing libraries and what not and eventually end up installing Windows 7 again out of frustration.
 
unskinnybob said:
I want to download and install the new version - I really do.. I know I'll be overwhelmed by the beauty and splendor. I know I'll love the interface. I'll love the way all my hardware drivers are installed automatically. But then I'll start playing with different apps, download some media player or another random program, run into missing libraries and what not and eventually end up installing Windows 7 again out of frustration.
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:D

Nah it's a safe bet hey. Even the average joe can do everything he does on Windows and go about it without any incidents.
 
unskinnybob said:
I want to download and install the new version - I really do.. I know I'll be overwhelmed by the beauty and splendor. I know I'll love the interface. I'll love the way all my hardware drivers are installed automatically. But then I'll start playing with different apps, download some media player or another random program, run into missing libraries and what not and eventually end up installing Windows 7 again out of frustration.
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Cant say I have had that problem for a very VERY long time. If you install VLC....then it will play basically any media file you can think of me things.

I am using LInux Mint though ... but they both use synaptic and almost identical repos so what goes for Linux Mint pretty much goes for Ubuntu and visa versa I would say.
 
porchrat said:
I haven't tried Unity yet (I'm still on 10.04). Is it easy to pick up or am I going to punch a hole in my screen out of sheer frustration and resort to terminal for everything like I do under KDE?
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Stay the fsck away then. I hate Unity it's retarted, Gnome3 is only slightly better. I'm happy with Xubuntu 11.10 but just installed openbox, tint2 etc a few minutes ago and will switch between the two.
 
My Acer Aspire netbook upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 perfectly, however even though everything runs properly its a lot slower than 11.04 was.
 
Still running Debian squeeze ;)
Downloaded Kubuntu 11.10 (both 32 and 64 bit editions) just to play with for now. Why the jump to 3.0 kernel?

Sent from my GT-I9000
 
MyWorld said:
If KDE sends you into a rage then stay away from Gnome 3 and unity.
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I don't think this statement is entirely valid. I think you should chose your DE based on what kind of cars you like :D

Gnome 2 = Land Rover
Unity (Gnome 2) = Land Rover with a GPS that only knows half your route
Unity (Gnome 3) = an Audi with a caravan
Gnome 3 = Audi
Gnome 3 (with Gnome Shell) = an Audi with a sunroof :D
KDE = Subaru with 3 wings and full body kit

Please feel free to add some other interface vs car comparisons, that's my list.
 
11.10 totally killed the WIFI speed on my work Thinkpad. I noticed many people complaining about this issue. Two suggestion where to disable IPV6 and power saving on the interface but that didn't help in my case.

So now I have 11.10 on my desktop and Mint in the Thinkpad.
 
warwickw said:
My Acer Aspire netbook upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 perfectly, however even though everything runs properly its a lot slower than 11.04 was.
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Thats a problem, I found 11.04 to be a resource hog on my new laptop.


dabbler said:
Still running Debian squeeze ;)
Downloaded Kubuntu 11.10 (both 32 and 64 bit editions) just to play with for now. Why the jump to 3.0 kernel?

Sent from my GT-I9000
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Just switched back to Debian last week after 5yrs of Ubuntu (still got the Breezy Badger CDs and Ubuntu stickers from Canonical). So glad to be back on Debian, Ubuntu has gone off track a lot in the last year.

I use to be a big proponent of Ubuntu but now I'm getting like the older Linux guys, I'm tired of a distro that has a 6mth release cycle that continues to change things that work, and not fix the things that are broken.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
I use to be a big proponent of Ubuntu but now I'm getting like the older Linux guys, I'm tired of a distro that has a 6mth release cycle that continues to change things that work, and not fix the things that are broken.
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I agree with you.

Would also prefer a yearly release cycle, instead of every six months. Don't know why they are so obsessed with a six month release cycle.
 
kingrob said:
I agree with you.

Would also prefer a yearly release cycle, instead of every six months. Don't know why they are so obsessed with a six month release cycle.
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Unfortunately, what are the chances of them moving from bi-annual to annual releases when they've been doing so for..... since I can remember.
It would be nice however, and to have substantial upgrades from each release instead of basically (11.04->11.10) patches.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
Just switched back to Debian last week after 5yrs of Ubuntu (still got the Breezy Badger CDs and Ubuntu stickers from Canonical). So glad to be back on Debian, Ubuntu has gone off track a lot in the last year.

I use to be a big proponent of Ubuntu but now I'm getting like the older Linux guys, I'm tired of a distro that has a 6mth release cycle that continues to change things that work, and not fix the things that are broken.
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This sadly echos my thoughts and actions (I also have the bag somewhere around here). It's quite a shame.
 
If by "native" you mean "does it play games written with Linux distributions in mind:, the answer is yes. I don't think that it is any more reasonable to expect any Linux distribution to run Windows executables than it is to denigrate the Playstation 3 because it will not play Xbox 360 game discs-or that one cannot expect to run MacOSX binaries such as Photobooth in Windows.

For the majority of *ux users, how important is it that it should have a large library of commercial games?
 
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