Ubuntu previews new release

[Murmaider]

Err thank you w1z4d & chiskop for clearing that up , but ... What I ment by "Innovate, beg, borrow & steal." was ideas to make their ui more user friendly as I feel for a non i.t industry user its a tad confusing ... btw before you'll open fire upon me im a accounting student so im just curious about this. Why not make a common ui ? look what the symbian foundation is doing merging s60, uiq & moap(s) to a common ui. Likewise wouldn't that speed up development times of ubuntu & save them money ?

Why reinvent the wheel?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Gnome, KDE or xfce.
To add to this, you must understand that it doesn't take a few developers a couple of nights to code a UI, it takes years and years and requires a lot of experienced programmers. Rather than going this route, Canonical would rather put a fire under the existing UI's and help them to improve, stream line and advance it.

Im also not really sure how one could complain that any of the UI's are not user friendly? if they were using fluxbox or the likes of then I could fully understand. Seriously, KDE is so dumb down that any idiot could use it... I fail to understand why you think that a none technical person wouldn't be able to use it? The problem is that you are just so use to the way windows works and anything else is far to foreign for you.

A number of years ago, a mate of mine helped out an old lady with a computer and as an experiment, he installed linux with KDE on the computer and gave it to her. She had never touched a computer up until this point. He spent a few weeks training her on how to use the mouse and the keyboard, how to send an email, how to type up a document, how to print etc. After a few months of her working in KDE, he decided to put her in front of a windows PC and asked her to do the same things she does on her PC. The woman got terribly frustrated and complained that windows was to complicated and not at all user friendly...

The point of this is that nothing unfamiliar to what you currently use will ever seem completely user friendly.

 

[rwenzori]

Why the big fuss about 3G support it's been in Mandriva for a while already ?


just a dig at the ubuntu fan boys

Mandriva FTW!

The one desktop Linux that doesn't require you to recompile the kernel from the command line every second login LOL!

 

[Murmaider]

Mandriva FTW!

The one desktop Linux that doesn't require you to recompile the kernel from the command line every second login LOL!

That because mandrive put their own crappy code in the kernel and there is no one on god green earth who has ever been able to successfully recompile a mandrive kernel

 

[rwenzori]

That because mandrive put their own crappy code in the kernel and there is no one on god green earth who has ever been able to successfully recompile a mandrive kernel

LOL! Good one!

By implication, Mandriva is therefore a Divine Linux, compiled by the Gods for our enjoyment!



< just kidding! >

 

[Smiley_lauf]

ok, back to the topic.
I am using the ibex beta and everything works just fine. not tested the E220 vodafone modem yet, so can't comment on this.

For those looking for a local server to download: http://za.releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/

Enjoy,
S

 

[Lino]

Since I am becoming a Linux freak I am busy downloading Kubuntu 8.10 Beta

 

[milomak]

A number of years ago, a mate of mine helped out an old lady with a computer and as an experiment, he installed linux with KDE on the computer and gave it to her. She had never touched a computer up until this point. He spent a few weeks training her on how to use the mouse and the keyboard, how to send an email, how to type up a document, how to print etc. After a few months of her working in KDE, he decided to put her in front of a windows PC and asked her to do the same things she does on her PC. The woman got terribly frustrated and complained that windows was to complicated and not at all user friendly...

The point of this is that nothing unfamiliar to what you currently use will ever seem completely user friendly.

Aha. This is what I am always saying. People are just used to doing things a certain way. And if you are going to change OS (from whichever to whatever), if you expect things to work the same way as your old OS, you will definitely hate the experience.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

why is it a gnome issue my gnome on my system reconises my 3G connection ?

Gnome Network Manager is the GUI application in gnome that most users make use of to manage their network connections: 3G / Dial Up / DSL / Wireless ... The improvements are to help the average user in getting their LINUX connected faster without having to use the console.

And Network Manager can recognize my 3G, it just sux at my CDMA Neotel connection - but the new release is resolving this.

This is a major step forward as networking was always an issue when I first started 2 years ago on LINUX. So even Mandrivia Gnome Users will benefit.

 

[milomak]

Gnome Network Manager is the GUI application in gnome that most users make use of to manage their network connections: 3G / Dial Up / DSL / Wireless ... The improvements are to help the average user in getting their LINUX connected faster without having to use the console.

And Network Manager can recognize my 3G, it just sux at my CDMA Neotel connection - but the new release is resolving this.

This is a major step forward as networking was always an issue when I first started 2 years ago on LINUX. So even Mandrivia Gnome Users will benefit.

Did Kubuntu have the same issues?

 

[wcoetzee]

Ubuntu FTW!

why don't you try Windows XP, it has wifi and hot plugable support since forever.
you can even play all the newest games on it, WOW!

 

[flarkit]

why don't you try Windows XP, it has wifi and hot plugable support since forever.
you can even play all the newest games on it, WOW!

Just to be different, that's why. To have an OS which is legally free, except for the media or download costs. To be a part of a community of users who willingly share information and provide assistance. If the major gaming companies would start porting their titles to Linux, I would probably totally remove Windows from my PC.

 

[.Froot.]

support+=1;

 

[ambo]

I've been using the SVN version of Network Manager 0.7 that is going to be included in Ubuntu 8.10 and I have to say its very nice!

Huawei E220 will be truly plug and play under Intrepid - as easy as Windoze!!

 

[Smiley_lauf]

jah, that is true, E220 is fully compatible with Ibex, just PnP and you are zooming away!