Unexpected Pregnancy

I'll tell you something, I'll doubt the integrity of ANY woman who claims I made her pregnant. I will tell you way as well. This is beause I have been involved in numerous affairs, and I have first hand experiences of the lies that women tell their husbands about where they are and why they're always tired or never in the mood.

Now I'll be expecting some broads out there to label ME the bad guy for having an affair with a married woman, not the women themselves :rolleyes:
 
SauRoNZA said:
The bigger question here should rather be who the hell in this day and age still has unprotected sex and there by gets "accidentally" pregnant.

There is no such thing as accidentally pregnant, only stupid pregnant.
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that has got to be the most ridiculous thing i have read. no birth control is 100%. it is a known fact that women have fallen pregnant when they've had their tubes tied or their husbands have had vasectomies. the pill, IUD, condom are not 100% pregnancy safe. you can still fall pregnant while taking precautions.
 
STS said:
False analogy, sperm cells and egg cells carry dna but are not able to create a human being on their own. Once a zygote starts dividing it is on its way to becoming a human being and is the same as debating whether a grandpa is more human than a toddler.

It's more "merciful' to abort a child in the womb, but it is still a human, that child in the womb doesn't become ANYTHING else but a human.

If a child doesn't exist, why do you need to step in and kill what is in the womb?
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The sperm and the egg cannot create a human being on their own in the same way that a zygote cannot become human on its own (without the mother).
 
Bar0n said:
Does the law require the consent of the father (married to the mother or not) to abort a baby?
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I'm not sure, but I know for sure that the law requires the father to pay maintenance on a child he might not even have wanted ;)
 
abandonallhope said:
So ultimately men have NO say in whether they can have a child or not ?
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No, especially in a case where it was not planned. She's stuck with the bump for 9 months and the pain and effort that goes with it. You're not.
 
Slootvreter said:
Look at all the woman agreeing with Celine. Yet run to the courts for child support when they do decide to keep it? LOL goddamn women.
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Really? I agreed with Ancalagon. It is a woman's body and her decision, but it's not fair that she has it both ways. If the father has asked her to have an abortion early enough in the pregnancy and has no interest in being a father to her child, then he should not be liable for child support. Which woman here did not agree to that?
 
Maverick Jester said:
That is utter rubbish. The child belongs to BOTH parents, not only the one who happens to have the duty of carrying them.

What is amazing, is that this sort of viewpoint has no consideration for the actual child being carried- only the effect that it will have on the woman's body.
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not while it's in the woman's body. no court of law can stop a woman from going thru an abortion just because the father says hold on i'm the father i say no.
 
Slootvreter said:
I'm not sure, but I know for sure that the law requires the father to pay maintenance on a child he might not even have wanted ;)
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I highly doubt the father needs to consent in the case of an abortion. In which case everyone arguing for the father's case are simply farting against the wind.
 
Celine said:
that has got to be the most ridiculous thing i have read. no birth control is 100%. it is a known fact that women have fallen pregnant when they've had their tubes tied or their husbands have had vasectomies. the pill, IUD, condom are not 100% pregnancy safe. you can still fall pregnant while taking precautions.
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Most sensible post you've made in this entire thread.
 
Celine said:
what friggin plans? the only plans he had to begin with was to sleep with her. then she falls pregnant and starts doubting her integrit. then she has an abortion and he's all against it. double standards here i think.
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I got up every night for my son alone. I sat with him at the hospital and doctor every time he was. I am the only one to take him out on outings, fetch him from school, take him with me alone to visit family, go shopping with him, etc.

I changed jobs so I could be home earlier and leave later. My life has changed dramatically because of my son and I've put a lot of effort into being a good dad, from the minute I knew my girlfriend was pregnant. A father is more than a spermbank
 
STS said:
I got up every night for my son alone. I sat with him at the hospital and doctor every time he was. I am the only one to take him out on outings, fetch him from school, take him with me alone to visit family, go shopping with him, etc.

I changed jobs so I could be home earlier and leave later. My life has changed dramatically because of my son and I've put a lot of effort into being a good dad, from the minute I knew my girlfriend was pregnant. A father is more than a spermbank
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Your experience has nothing to do with this. No matter how good a father you are, or how bad a father another man, does not change the fact that the women has to carry the baby inside her, not you.
 
abandonallhope said:
good grief

Humans plumb new depths of depravity every day.
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Right, let's do it with a story and pictures. You impregnate your girlfriend, unplanned and unprepared (in terms of a baby of course). She doesn't want to keep the baby, but you're suddenly overcome with happy feelings and the urge to keep it. Are you going to force her to keep it? Will you take her to court and force her (good ****ing luck with that one)?

If I want a baby and my girlfriend doesn't, can I poke a hole in the condom and then she's obliged to keep it?

Think before you speak, for god's sake.
 
Let's pretend for a second that the man has as much right as the woman regarding the decision of having the baby or not.

Man and woman both want baby: Let nature take its course.
Man and woman both don't want baby: Abortion.
Woman wants baby, man doesn't want baby: Woman doesn't get child support from man.
Man wants baby, woman doesn't want baby: ???
 
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