Unexpected Pregnancy

Women who undergo abortions are nothing more than cold blooded murderers. That child could have been someone great but you killed him/her.
 
abandonallhope said:
What an utterly soulless world you live in.

I cannot even imagine it.
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Having a child is a pre-agreed on responsibility for both parties.
If one party doesnt feel the same way as the other then it is best to terminate either the pregnancy or the relationship.
The result of not doing so will only result in resentment either towards each other or the child in the long term.
Being together, or staying together due to an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy is stupid and pointless.
 
Shaun108 said:
Women who undergo abortions are nothing more than cold blooded murderers. That child could have been someone great but you killed him/her.
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Could also have been a drug addict, serial killer, or the next Hitler.
 
Shaun108 said:
Women who undergo abortions are nothing more than cold blooded murderers. That child could have been someone great but you killed him/her.
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What if the doctors are quite certain that both mother and baby will die during childbirth?
 
Wow Celine, You simply don't get it. Your obvious disdain for the masculine sex is palpable, had your fair share of domineering partners that you are a little sour over?

I don't think that anybody is saying that a man should be able to put a stop to a woman's decision to have an abortion if she chooses to. It is her body and let's face it, unless the guy is 100% committed through thick and thin, she will take the brunt of the responsibility as well.
The point is that any healthy relationship requires communication on difficult topics. The woman can have the final say, but she should "always", in a healthy relationship, have the discussion with her SO. If only to help him come to terms with her decision and make him feel like more than a "Sperm Donor" as you put it.

That fact that you reduce the male role in this whole affair to the crude words of a "Sperm Donor", speaks absolute volumes. It is the equivalent of me standing around with my mates and talking about my SO by saying: "Ya the kitchen staff has been slacking lately, no need to consult her on whether I get to buy a new sports car with our family savings, her opinion does not reach outside the kitchen."
 
D3nz said:
Really? I agreed with Ancalagon. It is a woman's body and her decision, but it's not fair that she has it both ways. If the father has asked her to have an abortion early enough in the pregnancy and has no interest in being a father to her child, then he should not be liable for child support. Which woman here did not agree to that?
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But he will be liable regardless, will he not?
 
Celine said:
ALL my posts have been sensible you just are sensitive to the fact that you don't have a say over a woman's body. kapow.
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Jesus Christ, when did you turn into a raging feminist? What what's this kapow? Where is this homerun you apparentely scored? :confused:
 
MrDilemma said:
Oh sorry I should have mentioned, and I am ashamed to admit it, but she got an abortion yesterday. Well started it at least. So there is no way for me to verify if I was the father. But ye, if we were going to have the baby, I would definitely have gotten a paternity test.
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Ag no man :(
 
SoulTax said:
Wow Celine, You simply don't get it. Your obvious disdain for the masculine sex is palpable, had your fair share of domineering partners that you are a little sour over?

I don't think that anybody is saying that a man should be able to put a stop to a woman's decision to have an abortion if she chooses to. It is her body and let's face it, unless the guy is 100% committed through thick and thin, she will take the brunt of the responsibility as well.
The point is that any healthy relationship requires communication on difficult topics. The woman can have the final say, but she should "always", in a healthy relationship, have the discussion with her SO. If only to help him come to terms with her decision and make him feel like more than a "Sperm Donor" as you put it.

That fact that you reduce the male role in this whole affair to the crude words of a "Sperm Donor", speaks absolute volumes. It is the equivalent of me standing around with my mates and talking about my SO by saying: "Ya the kitchen staff has been slacking lately, no need to consult her on whether I get to buy a new sports car with our family savings, her opinion does not reach outside the kitchen."
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efitol said:
Let's pretend for a second that the man has as much right as the woman regarding the decision of having the baby or not.

Man and woman both want baby: Let nature take its course.
Man and woman both don't want baby: Abortion.
Woman wants baby, man doesn't want baby: Woman doesn't get child support from man.
Man wants baby, woman doesn't want baby: ???
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Man wants baby, woman doesn't want baby: Woman gives man child, man doesn't ask for child support from mother
 
STS said:
Man wants baby, woman doesn't want baby: Woman gives man child, man doesn't ask for child support from mother
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Woman still has to go through the physical and emotional aspects of a pregnancy, which the man does not.
 
Bar0n said:
Right, let's do it with a story and pictures. You impregnate your girlfriend, unplanned and unprepared (in terms of a baby of course). She doesn't want to keep the baby, but you're suddenly overcome with happy feelings and the urge to keep it. Are you going to force her to keep it? Will you take her to court and force her (good ****ing luck with that one)?

If I want a baby and my girlfriend doesn't, can I poke a hole in the condom and then she's obliged to keep it?

Think before you speak, for god's sake.
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Could you please explain what gave you the idea that I would want to force a woman to have a baby ?

What I am saying is that it's ****ed up if the man ultimately has no say in whether he can have children. Then again if anything goes and you have no problem with ****ing anything with a pulse at the drop of a hat, you see things in a totally different (depraved) light.

Does it make more sense with some crude language mixed in ?
 
Ancalagon said:
Woman still has to go through the physical and emotional aspects of a pregnancy, which the man does not.
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how is getting attached to your child not emotional? you make it sound like carrying a child is swimming the Atlantic
 
abandonallhope said:
Could you please explain what gave you the idea that I would want to force a woman to have a baby ?

What I am saying is that it's ****ed up if the man ultimately has no say in whether he can have children. Then again if anything goes and you have no problem with ****ing anything with a pulse at the drop of a hat, you see things in a totally different (depraved) light.

Does it make more sense with some crude language mixed in ?
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So what if he said he wants the baby? It changes absolutely nothing. She was clearly not ready for this and she would have had the abortion anyway.
 
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