US politics general thread

[Garson007]

Yes and the definition of a migrant is someone who moves to another country for better opportunities.

This is exactly what the migrants are doing.

Potato / potato. They're still doing so illegally, irrespective of their motivations. This makes them criminal migrants.

 

[rietrot]

Yes and the definition of a migrant is someone who moves to another country for better opportunities.

This is exactly what the migrants are doing.

But you keep on mixing those who legally do it with those who do it illegally. Nobody has a problem with legal migrants.

 

[greg0205]

What is wrong with you? You cannot call out someone for doing something you yourself do on the same ****ing page you did it. It has nothing to do with pedophilia wtf at all, but with hypocrisy.

Okay, here's my read on the last few pages...

Davviem's "these people" refers to migrants, you know, the folk "bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people."

Randhir's "they" refers to conservatives/evangelicals/Republicans, as in "They only claim to care about children..." from your post #1583

Both were following-on from from cerebus's post regarding kids being separated from their parents which in turn was a response to konfab's unemployment numbers post.

All in all, I see one poster trying to gaslight jobs numbers and another poster worried about kids. Then I see a poster being a bit, you know, racist and afraid, and a fourth making fun of conservatives, but hypocrisy? Unless we're talking about konfab's jobs numbers thing, I don't see it.

The call-out was fair. Davviem's post had racial undertones and Randhir's didn't.

Sure, you didn't like a connection being made between kids being separated from their parents at the border and a right-wing conspiracy theory involving kids, pizza shops and Hillary. So be it. Doesn't change any of the above, and can we get back to metaphors now?

 

[cerebus]

But you keep on mixing those who legally do it with those who do it illegally. Nobody has a problem with legal migrants.

Just as long as they come from countries like Norway and not ****hole African countries, right? But sure, if they come in illegally - even if it's seeking asylum and they have babies - it's fine to strip them of their human rights and separate their babies from them.

 

[rietrot]

Just as long as they come from countries like Norway and not ****hole African countries, right? But sure, if they come in illegally - even if it's seeking asylum and they have babies - it's fine to strip them of their human rights and separate their babies from them.

No they can come from anywhere as long as they do it legally.
Thanks for making my point.

 

[RanzB]

No they can come from anywhere as long as they do it legally.
Thanks for making my point.

But if they don't and it's through no fault of their own, then it's fair game to do whatever you want with no oversight, right?

As I said, they're happy to **** the children when it suits them.

 

[RanzB]

Charlottesville Hate Marcher Elected by Republican Party

James Allsup, 22, attended the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia

Allsup was filmed marching with Identity Evropa, an anti-immigrant alt-right group

“Of course I’m not the GOP shill here. I’m not going to tell you that knocking doors for a Republican congressman is going to save the West or save European Americans,” he said. “That’s not at all what I’m saying, but it is a means to an end. This political involvement is a means to our political ends.”

“If you are a college guy, or a college girl, and you are on a college campus, if you have three or four fashy goy friends, you can take over your school’s College Republicans group and move it to essentially being an alt-right club,” Allsup said.

Damigo stepped down after Unite the Right, to be replaced by Elliott Kline, an alt-righter who goes by “Eli Mosley” and who bragged on a podcast of supposedly killing Muslims while in Iraq.

“I work in HR firing n----rs and spics all day,” he said during a March 2016 podcast. “Before that, I was in the army and I got to kill Muslims for fun. I’m not sure which one was better: watching n----rs and spics cry because they can’t feed their little mud children or watching Muslims brains spray on the wall. Honestly both probably suck compared to listening to a kike’s scream while in the oven.”

A New York Times investigation revealed that Kline had lied about his military record, and had never been to Iraq.

M'uh "economic anxiety"

 

[Hamish McPanji]

Charlottesville Hate Marcher Elected by Republican Party



M'uh "economic anxiety"

Well, at least he's equal opportunity.

 

[greg0205]

I see president snowflake has disinvited the Eagles from visiting the White House. Odd, he invited his pal Tom Brady and the Patriots after they won the Super Bowl last year.


"Disinviting them from the White House only proves that our President is not a true patriot, but a fragile egomaniac obsessed with crowd size and afraid of the embarrassment of throwing a party to which no one wants to attend." - Philly mayor Jim Kenney

"Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" - Donald J Trump

 

[konfab]

Just as long as they come from countries like Norway and not ****hole African countries, right?

So what do you call countries that you need to seek Asylum from? I suppose you cannot say anything disparaging about any country that treats its people so badly that they want to leave? No, they are God's gift to mankind.

But sure, if they come in illegally - even if it's seeking asylum and they have babies - it's fine to strip them of their human rights and separate their babies from them.

Introducing Obaaamaaaa- the Nobel Peace Prize winning Messiah of all true liberals:

This photograph dates from 2014 (during the Obama administration) and was not directly related to a mid-2018 controversy over Trump administration policy of separating children from undocumented migrant parents at the U.S. border. The picture was one of several that accompanied an Arizona Republic article about a detention center for undocumented migrant children in Nogales, Arizona.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/18/arizona-immigrant-children-holding-area-tour/10780449/

Although [Texas] detention centers had been used long before [2014], that year the Obama administration made them key to its immigration policy. [The center in] Dilley was built that year, and Karnes was greatly expanded. Immigration advocates fought back, and last year in the Federal District Court for the Central District of California, Judge Dolly Gee made a ruling that helped their case. In her decision last July, the judge said the centers were in “deplorable” condition, and that they failed to meet even minimal standards. Gee pointed to a 1997 ruling that determined the government cannot treat a child in detention as it would an adult. She ordered the Obama administration to release the migrant kids from both Texas centers.

That didn’t happen. The Obama administration appealed, and for the past year has tried to figure out how to get around the ruling

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/childrens-concentration-camp/

 

[RanzB]

So what do you call countries that you need to seek Asylum from? I suppose you cannot say anything disparaging about any country that treats its people so badly that they want to leave? No, they are God's gift to mankind.



Introducing Obaaamaaaa- the Nobel Peace Prize winning Messiah of all true liberals:

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https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/18/arizona-immigrant-children-holding-area-tour/10780449/


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/childrens-concentration-camp/

Ah, Obama did it, so everyone should. What a great argument hey?

Also it's fitting that you don't understand what the difference is between having a holding area for unaccompanied children, and forcibly separating them from their families.

What a good little Trumpite you are.

The Nogales facility is a way station where the children are identified, examined for health problems by the U.S. Public Health Service, vaccinated and then moved to other facilities in Texas, Oklahoma and California until they are placed with relatives already in the country to await their day in Immigration Court.

On Wednesday morning, bowing to pressure from politicians, the CBP allowed journalists to tour this warehouse of humanity.

The tour dispelled rumors of ill treatment. The CBP agents in the building seem to be genuinely compassionate in their interactions with the children. The facility is clean and air-conditioned.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...xas-senator-jeff-merkley-barred-a8383511.html
1) FTFY.
2) Try and read the article. You don't really want the public to have access to said children.

3) If you and your family commit a crime in this country, is there an obligation for the justice system to keep you with your children?

1) It includes asylum seekers.
2) Not 'the public', a US Senator. Oversight, ya know. The thing Republicans wholly abandoned when Trump got into office. Odd that.
3) That's the spirit. Why not behead them for their misdemeanors? Should they start separating kids from their families when the parents commit perjury, or obscenity, or a DUI? Those are all misdemeanors, too.

"these people"

Here we go

It's pretty telling that they're so hyper-focused on the brown ones, and not say, the 50 000 illegal Irish immigrants, or the 198 000 Koreans, or the 268 000 Chinese ones.

The racial demagoguery that accompanies all of Trump's rhetoric is not even a dog whistle, it's a full-on bullhorn.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Trump told officials to punish NFL as part of GOP tax plan

President Trump told White House officials that they should use the Republican-backed tax plan to punish the NFL, according to a report from The Washington Post.

Aides reportedly began looking into how to punish the league, and those ideas spread to Capitol Hill.

Part 1231434 in 'imagine if Obama did this...'

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Meanwhile, in the US under the Evil Lord Donald Trump and his plan to oppress all black people and woman

You were saying?

It Sure Looks Like The Courts Are About To Get Tougher On Black People

Republican-nominated judges give harsher sentences to black defendants, says a new study. Trump’s court picks already have worrisome records.

An exhaustive new Harvard study analyzed data on more than half a million defendants and about 1,400 U.S. district court judges over 15 years. It found that, compared with Democrat-nominated judges, GOP-nominated judges sentence black defendants to three more months than nonblack defendants for similar crimes.

“These differences cannot be explained by other judge characteristics and grow substantially larger when judges are granted more discretion,” concludes the study, which was first reported last week by The New York Times.

It’s too early to tell what effect, if any, President Donald Trump’s judges are having on racial disparities in sentencing. But given that some of his judicial nominees have records of being racist, and others have extreme views on crime and punishment, civil rights advocates say the study’s findings only add to their concerns that black people won’t be treated fairly by Trump’s judges.

“Trump’s judicial nominees in particular are demonstrating what we see as a breathtaking hostility toward equal rights,” said Todd Cox, director of policy at the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund.

Take Thomas Farr, who is awaiting Senate confirmation to the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina. He drafted North Carolina’s voter suppression law, defended racially discriminatory gerrymandering and may have lied to the Senate about his role in disenfranchising black voters when he worked for the late Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.).

Wendy Vitter and Andrew Oldham, two other pending judicial nominees, refused to say during their confirmation hearings if they supported the outcome of Brown v. Board of Education, the landmark 1954 ruling that struck down school segregation.

 

[konfab]

You were saying?

It Sure Looks Like The Courts Are About To Get Tougher On Black People

Republican-nominated judges give harsher sentences to black defendants, says a new study. Trump’s court picks already have worrisome records.

3 months longer? Is that the result of having literally a KKK grand wizard as president?

 

[cerebus]

3 months longer? Is that the result of having literally a KKK grand wizard as president?

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The Russian Witch Hunt Hoax continues, all because Jeff Sessions didn’t tell me he was going to recuse himself...I would have quickly picked someone else. So much time and money wasted, so many lives ruined...and Sessions knew better than most that there was No Collusion!

4:31 AM - 5 Jun 2018

So confused. I thought God Emperor had the absolute right to pardon himself, but he blames Jeff Sessions for not doing more to obstruct the Russian investigation. Is he confessing to mortality?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

3 months longer? Is that the result of having literally a KKK grand wizard as president?

You clearly didn't read the post properly, but will respond in bad faith even if you do.

I get it, though. Feels > reals.

So confused. I thought God Emperor had the absolute right to pardon himself, but he blames Jeff Sessions for not doing more to obstruct the Russian investigation. Is he confessing to mortality?

Prefers to whine endlessly about Sessions, too. Rather than fire him. Wonder why he can't.

 

[RanzB]

Watch Extremely Patriotic Guy Donald Trump Forget The Words To 'God Bless America'

In the intensely awkward clip, Trump starts off well by remembering the first line "God bless America, land that I love", but things go south shortly afterwards and he's left bobbing his head and opening his mouth at random intervals like a fish out of water.

Stable genius, leader of the Republitards! :crylaugh:

 

[RanzB]

Tide goes in, tide goes out, you can't explain that.

 

[cerebus]

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Tide goes in, tide goes out, you can't explain that.