USB Modem Power Issues / USB Extensions

Custom modem cable.

My 2nd hand modem E272 came with very thin 58cm cable, similar to the cables supplied with digital cameras. It never worked with this cable. I experienced various problems from failing to register to the network (green light blinking twice - searching for network) to the complete reseting of the modem (indicated that OS was reinstalling drivers for the device). I checked this cable and found that the power line has resistance 1.1Ohm and ground wire 1.4Ohm, for the total 2.5Ohm. The modem is rated 500mA, this will generate voltage drop 1.25V which is far below USB specification!

E272 is a type of the "sausage on the rope" device, it needs a cable. I tested it with 80cm old Nokia DKE-2 cable and 100cm cable supplied with Garmin device. It works, but I found that connection is more stable with the borrowed original E220 Y-cable. I realised that I need much shorter cable, or apply a solution below which helps with dynamic load.

Chosing a cable. It must be a thick one, the resistance of the power and ground wire must be beyond recognition of typical digital multimeter. 1Ohm of total resistance gives 0.5V drop of the voltage on the modem side. This solution will not help if cable resistance is high, or if USB port on PC has got faulty polyswitch.

A peak load of the modem is much higher than specified 500mA. It is why I decided to apply in-a-cable a filter solution. There are already such solutions published on the net. Cut the cable, add come capacitors between power and ground line. Adding a Shottky diode is claimed to work better... maybe, but a reasoning is wrong. Besides, I don't like losing 0.5V on the diode. It is why it is much better to replace diode with a choke.

In this project chose a cable as above. Cut insulation (near modem end) to uncover individual wires. Try not destroy a shield. Do not touch data wires. Open insulation of the ground wire for soldering (usually black), but do not cut it. Cut the power wire (usually red). Attach it firmly to a prototype printed-circuit board with already solldered-in choke and capacitors. It is simple. If you don't have experience or do not understand what I am talking about, better ask a friendly electrician to do it for you.

Chosing a coke. This is critical to use a choke which is rated more than 500mA DC current. Be careful with a torroid type or other closed-field. They can easily saturate, meaning do_not_work. Chosing unknown choke from the scrap electronics usually do not work. To meassure saturation current you need something more than a typical RLC meter. It is why it is a tricky part. I chose a choke from a scraped ATX power supply. It sits in 5Vsb circuit and this output is rated 1A, so I know that 500mA will not saturate a choke.

Chosing capacitors. Your choice is not critical, except for the high capacity electrolitic (1000uF or more), which must be low-esr type. It can be found in output of any regulated switching mode power supplies. It has to be also small (around) 10nF ceramic at the location closest to the cutted wire and modem. My choice of capacitors is C1=1500uF/6.3V, C2=33uF/(unknown voltage) tantalum, C3=10OnF/50V MKP or MKP like, C4=820nF (similar - unknown, added because it was space), C5=10nF ceramic.

Conclusion: Everybody needs a cable. To take modem out from the space obscured by metal cabinets of your desk, bring it to the location of better reception. Standard USB extensions for power-hungry modems usually give other (various) problems, unless modem is attached to the self-powered USB 2.0 bub. I tested various modems connected to self-powered USB hub and 3 pieces of 1m extension cable to the PC (total 3m). Similar results. It works only when external power is supplied to the hub. The same configuration (3 extension cables) works when using my modified cable as a last piece. It doesn't need hub to work and - if modem is connected to the hub, the hub does not need external power.
 
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Cell C speed stick overheating!

Hey,

well I have my HAUWEI E1820 with the 5GB promo (6 months old),

for the first time I have HSPA+ coverage instead of EDGE, After about of using it for 5 minutes the internet connection freezes and it is extremely HOT, I cant even pick it up it is that hot!

Is this a hardware problem?

Can I exchange it??

Thanks
 
Well, my E1820 gets warm, but if I run it in a router, for some reason it runs cooler. It's not going to last if its that hot. Run it under the tap now and then to cool it..
 
No, once. That'll be the last time it ever heats up!
 
My E1820 also developed this problem so I took it in to Cell-C Fourways and asked for a replacement. Which, as I had had it for longer than six months they declined citing that it has to be tested/repaired. But this turned out not to be a problem as, at my insistence on a loaner, they gave me one! (I was utterly shocked at the time but it seems you DO actually get decent service sometimes).

Then the loaner E1820 turned out to be a heat demon so I got into the habit of blowing a fan onto it to keep it at a reasonable temp - during which time it would keep working; it was only when it totally cooked that it failed.

Anyhow, a couple of weeks later I got a call to come in ...and picked up a shiny *NEW* ZTE modem under warranty exchange! So, OP: yes, I believe it really is a hardware problem with the old E1820s and if you are still in warranty, you are well within your rights to get them to do something about it (AND get satisfaction!)
 
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My E367 also runs really hot. Is this just crappy design from Huawei?
 
My E1820 gets really hot only if I queue a few downloads that take more than 5minutes on HSPA, at which point it overheats and disconnects, then after a few seconds Windows detects the device again and I have to click connect again. This happens often since I got it in April.
 
I keep a couple of cold Gel Packs in the freezer.....these contain a gel that does not quit freeze and is flexible....used to pack sprained ankles, knees etc. to relieve swelling.
On some DSTV decoders I have owned I used to often get the decoder overheating and would lose the picture...I used to then place a gel pack under the decoder and another gel pack on top of the decoder....used to cool the decoder down nicely!:)
 
My E1820 gets really hot only if I queue a few downloads that take more than 5minutes on HSPA, at which point it overheats and disconnects, then after a few seconds Windows detects the device again and I have to click connect again. This happens often since I got it in April.
How do you know it is overheating?

I have left an E1820 connected in direct sunlight in a hot car and it was too hot to touch but remained connected.

If your modem is getting hot it may be working harder because of a poor signal. If it is working harder, it is drawing more current from the USB port and may exceed the limit of your port. Improving your signal or improving the power available to the modem may solve your problem.
 
I have been having a problem with my Huawei E1820 modem from the time i got it. It randomly disconnects all the time and it does not last longer than 2 minutes. It is doing what most the people in this thread have been talking about USB reset disconnection and its rather frustrating.

Here is the output from the Mobile Partner Application

Device
Device name: E1820
Application port: COM6
Serial number: ZK5TAA1061010602
IMEI: 357893030407073
Hardware version: CP12TCPU
Firmware version: 11.831.03.00.00
Software Version: 13.001.07.00.03

SIM/USIM
Own number(MSISDN): Unknown
Messages in SIM/USIM: 0 / 20
Contacts in SIM/USIM: 0 / 250
Message center number: +27829129
PIN code status: Ready

Network status
Network name: VODA
RSSI: -69dBm
CS network registration: Registered
PS network registration: Registered
PS network attachment: Attached

Network settings
APN: internet
Network selection mode: Manual

I tried a USB extention and it still does the USB port disconnection. I have also played around with my power management in device management and it still does the disconnection. Is there anything else I can do to fix this? will a wifi router fix this problem?
 
I have been having a problem with my Huawei E1820 modem from the time i got it. It randomly disconnects all the time and it does not last longer than 2 minutes. It is doing what most the people in this thread have been talking about USB reset disconnection and its rather frustrating.
On extreme case it resets itself and system is reloading drivers. Watch system tray (in Windows), you see notification, then you are almost sure you have a power problem.
Did you try other USB port? Self powered USB 2.0 hub? Remove other power hungry USB devices like external hard drives, memory sticks and see it help.
 
On extreme case it resets itself and system is reloading drivers. Watch system tray (in Windows), you see notification, then you are almost sure you have a power problem.
Did you try other USB port? Self powered USB 2.0 hub? Remove other power hungry USB devices like external hard drives, memory sticks and see it help.

Im using it on a acer laptop and I have disconnected all other USB's connected to the laptop except the mouse. Windows has not shown me any notification that it is reinstall any drivers. The laptop has 4 usb slots and I have used them all and the same problem happens, I just need to find someone with one of those wifi usb connectors to see if its stable there. If it is I will have to get that sigh if not I will return it and asking for a different brand cause for 2 days straight its been a headache to work with.
 
What OS service pack is running? Some OSes require service packs. Any possibility to try the modem on different computer or different modem on your laptop? If problem is found on your laptop and service packs are up to date, then I Suggest to try self-powered USB 2.0 hub. Or chose another modem, but then you should look for MiFi modems (around R1500), they usually have internal battery, so no power problems at all.
 
What OS service pack is running? Some OSes require service packs. Any possibility to try the modem on different computer or different modem on your laptop? If problem is found on your laptop and service packs are up to date, then I Suggest to try self-powered USB 2.0 hub. Or chose another modem, but then you should look for MiFi modems (around R1500), they usually have internal battery, so no power problems at all.

Im running windows 7 with no windows updates. Im busy checking for windows updates right now, will see if that will help me at all. I tried it on a Dell windows XP service pack 2 and it does the same thing on that Dell laptop as it does on my Acer. I will return it on Monday to the shop I brought it at, hopefully the owner will give me another brand 21.6 modem or give me my money back.
 
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