Vodacom ADSL expected soon

[MFour]

Nice, hopefully they would like to prove a point, something in the line of MWEB perhaps? As in free the interwebs and all that, power to the BB users, freedom of the gigs... Well I really hope they have an axe to grind with Telkom, that can only be to our benefit.

 

[Smiley_lauf]

Like with broadband news items, let us wait and see what happens; until, then, just prepare your Vaseline and do some stretches to bend forward!

 

[elswillie]

How about Tripple play?

Telephone, Internet, DSTV all in one packages?

 

[elswillie]

:wtf:

 

[LazyLion]

Um, correct me if I am wrong... but if it uses wireless for the last mile... then it is NOT ADSL.

Or has the definition of ADSL changed away from Subscriber LINE?

 

[sunsoffun]

do you still have to use Telkom for the last mile or are they going to try an alternative? e.g. Fiber to home, WiMax .. ext.

 

[diabolus]

Get ready for quality gigs R70 per gig.

You hope, at this rate it's going to be R200 p/GB [why change it when everyone on Vodacom network is use to R200 p/gb pricing].

A few months later they will also run a story in the lines of "we have no capacity problems, we don't know why overseas companies have this problem, our network can handle alot more traffic than we currently have on it" .........yea at R200 p/gb and anyone is surprised?

 

[Sheepbot]

Um, correct me if I am wrong... but if it uses wireless for the last mile... then it is NOT ADSL.

Or has the definition of ADSL changed away from Subscriber LINE?

That's what I thought :wtf:

 

[UnUnOctium]

Excellent... and they'll charge R2 per MB, right?

 

[InTheCube]

It will use the towers to connect to their network and once on there it uses
A seperate network dedicated to Dsl clients.
Just a way to get rid of telkom last mile.

You guys are missing the point. Vodacom will still be piggy-backing off Telkom's fixed line last mile infrastructure. Customers will still need a Telkom line, they will still have to pay for voice line rental, and ADSL line rental (either to Telkom directly, or to Vodacom as a reseller/wholesaler). Vodacom will have to get their own IPC pipe to connect to Telkom's ADSL cloud (they have one already), but they will provision their own national and international bandwidth off their own network (they are doing this already). So yes, they're just another ISP with an IPC pipe and their own network, like IS, MWEB, WebAFrica, Cybersmart, etc.

What we really need is for somebody to start installing their own wired last mile access. This has been discussed many times before on myBB - it won't happen any time soon. It is just to expensive, with little to no ROI, except in the very long term. The only way we will get better/faster last mile access is through Wireless, of if guavamint/I K A K A steps in and does something about it.

Vodacom and MTN could start installing their own last mile access without too much difficulty. It will be expensive, but they already have about 7000-8000 base stations/sites each around the country, from which they can build upon, and each of these sites are already provisioned with backhaul capacity (Telkom leased circuits, fibre, or microwave). They'd have to build miniture exchanges or DSLAMs at each site, and roll their own fibre out into neighbourhoods and streets. Imagine a partnership between MTN, Vodacom, Cell C, iBurst and Neotel to revamp the country's last mile access, where they lay down new fibre all over the place.

They could start off small, by targeting 2-3 towns/suburbs initially.

So it isn't entirely impossible.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I don't know where people are getting all these fancy ideas from.

This will be a normal ADSL setup... using Vodacom's backbone via IPC's and you will still have to pay Telkom for the ADSL line ultimately.

 

[grok]

Yet I cannot see Vodacom playing as a value player - they stubbornly refuse to lower 3G rates even though everyone knows bandwidth is relatively cheap now. They might be a big player but I fail to believe they will offer something that'll be competitive, Vodacom's always been greedy.

 

[quikdine]

2009 200Hi There

Maybe this is like No Tel who promised a service here in Port Elizabeth since the begining 2009 but nothing as yet We only Have Helkom . Here is Hoping VODACOM launches there ADSL service on a Prepaid Service here in Port Elizabeth First and no need for a phone line Just the DSL Line

 

[jannievanzyl]

I don't know where people are getting all these fancy ideas from.

This will be a normal ADSL setup... using Vodacom's backbone via IPC's and you will still have to pay Telkom for the ADSL line ultimately.

As per usual, spot on.

TW's idea of using the towers as central locations for DSLAM's is innovative, but getting ROW to trench for copper (or fiber) is going to be difficult, time consuming and expensive. Much better to unbundle the LL already in place. Makes more sense for fiber though.

 

[InTheCube]

Maybe this is like No Tel who promised a service here in Port Elizabeth since the begining 2009 but nothing as yet We only Have Helkom . Here is Hoping VODACOM launches there ADSL service on a Prepaid Service here in Port Elizabeth First and no need for a phone line Just the DSL Line

Trust me, you're better off without Neotel. Consider yourself saved. ADSL on prepaid - keep hoping. That decision is left to Telkom. Vodacom can't do anything about it. Just switch your telphone line from prepaid to account. It is cheaper - will save you more money in the long run, and you can apply for ADSL as well.

 

[Tweak]

As per usual, spot on.

TW's idea of using the towers as central locations for DSLAM's is innovative, but getting ROW to trench for copper (or fiber) is going to be difficult, time consuming and expensive. Much better to unbundle the LL already in place. Makes more sense for fiber though.

Its funny.. I spoke to an ex manager at telkom a few weeks ago, and I told him how crap telkom is becoming since they are already far behind Vodacom when it comes to speed and coverage and he told me its because vodacom connects with fancy new fibre optics and telkom is using older technology and.. its not worth it for telkom to develope fibre connections in a small town like ours..

Most of what he said is bs I think, Vodacom relies on telkom's infrastructure to provide a service because they will not have enough of their own cable to connect to all base stations.

Telkom employees know ****oll of what is happening in their own company ._.

 

[ingeon]

I hope this vodacom ADSL thing gets them to start fighting the LLU battle

And if not what is the difference between Telkom&Neotel vs. Others that allows connection to homes.
Imagine FTTH from Vodacom

Does the i-ECNS license allow them to connect directly to home users?

 

[pjjdp]

Imagine a partnership between MTN, Vodacom, Cell C, iBurst and Neotel to revamp the country's last mile access, where they lay down new fibre all over the place.

In a perfect world maybe. But I fully agree. I mean most of it is already done!!!!!

 

[kingrob]

Bad idea from Telkom to go after the mobile phone market.....I can just see Pieter Uys in the boardroom - you mess with us, we'll take you down!

And I would be so happy if we can rid South Africa of the monster that is called Telkom/Geldbom/Melkhom.

It's time.

 

[LazyLion]

Bad idea from Telkom to go after the mobile phone market.....I can just see Pieter Uys in the boardroom - you mess with us, we'll take you down!

And I would be so happy if we can rid South Africa of the monster that is called Telkom/Geldbom/Melkhom.

It's time.

um, did you read the whole thread? Vodacom would simply be piggy backing off Telkom's network in much the same way that Internet Solutions and Mweb are currently doing.

Don't get your celebration gear on yet.