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Seriously, do you really believe no-one in not doing anything? Everyone from the CEO to the takkies hitting the tar is not doing their utmost to resolve this?
If Vodacom actually took the time to put together a press release stating the problems and the target time frames and threw in some compensation for those worst affected I am sure most people (expect maybe Barfish88) would accept it. Instead they say nothing and leave it up to one individual to keep a small part of the population informed as to the current state of things.
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping -t smtp.vodacom.co.za
Pinging smtp.vodacom.co.za [196.11.146.148] with 32 bytes of data:
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C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping -t -l 500 smtp.vodacom.co.za
Pinging smtp.vodacom.co.za [196.11.146.148] with 500 bytes of data:
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C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>ping -t -l 1000 smtp.vodacom.co.za
Pinging smtp.vodacom.co.za [196.11.146.148] with 1000 bytes of data:
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Reply from 196.11.146.148:
The problem is is that Vodacom is not saying anything. While we take your word as a knowledgeable individual about what is going on behind closed doors Vodacom as a company is not saying anything. From the people that have called 155 and posted feedback, all the helpdesk seems to know is that there is a problem and nothing further.
Take the whole Skype disaster at the moment. They are at least acknowledging a problem as a company and posting regular updates on their heartbeat site as to the current status.
If Vodacom actually took the time to put together a press release stating the problems and the target time frames and threw in some compensation for those worst affected I am sure most people (expect maybe Barfish88) would accept it. Instead they say nothing and leave it up to one individual to keep a small part of the population informed as to the current state of things.
This is where I'm getting confused
I'm giving you detailed info and timeframes (more you'll get in a press release) and you say Vodacom is "not saying anything". What else must I say?
In any case, I wrote a press release that'll be going out, but trust me, you're getting more detailed info here.
It's all about the impression. This is an open forum, not the Vodacom forum, running under the Vodacom name. While you represent Vodacom, and it is obvious you are very involved in goings on, I don't know what your level of authority is and how much stick you carry to get things fixed (I realise from reading your posts that the stick is reasonably large)
While you are keeping us up to date it just sounds like you are being nice to us and giving us the "insider" info that Vodacom is to afraid to let out of the bag. Also we are but a small portion of the Vodacom 3G users, what about the public at large? It also doesn't help when one person (you) is admitting to a problem and the support team (155) is seemingly oblivious. It all creates the impression that nothing is being done and that Vodacom (the company) will not admit that there is a problem.
My suspicion is that if they do admit fault people will want to be compensated and rightly so. Vodacom rakes in millions of rands a day and if they are at fault people should be compensated. Thus the impression is created that they are trying to keep it under wraps while their "informer" keeps the forumites happy with a bone of information or two, while they crack the whip over the techies to fix the problem, so as not be be held liable.
I am by no means unthankfull for the support you provide (and I am sure many others will agree). Why can't the rest of Vodacom not be the same?
Got a blank sms from Vodacom the othe day if that counts![]()
It was one of those "Thinking about you" SMS's....
I hear what you guys say about informing the larger public. I have a few ideas we'll work through.
On the compensation idea. Can I strongly suggest you make sure you've got the problem logged and have a reference number....![]()
Having said that, I suspect that Vodacom would have nearly everyone's undying admiration & respect & forgiveness, if Data Bundle Rollover was implemented - at the very least 90 days for [searchforum]PPDBs[/searchforum] - even if it is only a trial that lasts until the end of 2007...
On the compensation idea. Can I strongly suggest you make sure you've got the problem logged and have a reference number....![]()
Of course I happen to agree, and have been subtly trying to convince forumites that it is in their own best interests to have their problems logged and get reference numbers and use http://speed.vodacom.co.za/ to better diagnose the problems they've been experiencing, but I have discovered that it doesn't help to p1ss into the gale-force wind that forumites have been stirring up.
It was one of those "Thinking about you" SMS's....![]()
Here is something interesting. I am PTA today at a friend's place using his ADSL (from IS) so that I can get some work done. Usually this ADSL is lightning fast but today it's actually no better than 3G. The real funny thing is that those web pages that show up completely empty (white space) started occuring now on ADSL at about 4:20pm this afternoon. It says to me there is something very "broken" on the SA Internet today.