Vodacom Problems: Slow Throughput, trying to Connect, DNS, High Latency

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Tallboy

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Sure it's a download issue, maybe a DNS problem?

- You can check by running 'nslookup' in a DOS box.
- At the '>' prompt type the URL you're trying to access. If it comes back with an IP, then DNS is fine.
- While you've got the IP,- type that into your browser and see if it's any better.

- What theoughput are you getting to NY on speedtest.net.

Lastly, for those of us geographically challenged, where exactly is Muldersdrif? :)

I had to refresh speedtest.net twice before it loaded properly. Then I got 462/309 to NY.

Hit "Submit Reply" and got an error. Had use to back button and try again ... and again ... and again
 
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BeVonk!

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I do get IP addresses when I do nslookup ... but I keep on getting "DNS request timed out" errors.
 

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Sounds possible. I get timeouts before the ip is resolved by the browser. When it gets through the speed is ok'ish.

We previously got a set of alternate DNS servers to use here. Probably needs ic's clairvoyant searching powers to find it....;)

Maybe switch the DNS servers and see if it makes a difference.
 

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Vodacom Speed Test: D = 1541 / U = 357 kbps
Cape Town: D = 854 / U = 100 kbps
NY: D = 493 / U = 160 kbps
London: D = 531 / U = 161 kbps

But it takes several retries to get the respective test pages loaded.
 

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Ah, yes, close to the dam. I now remember, tx!

I'm currently on a LAN connected PC (i.e. not on 3G) and I'm getting sporadic DNS errors.

Some of the symptoms reported here sounds like it could be caused by DNS. Can anyone verify?

From the Hometown.

It looks OK

Code:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Leon.CCSM>
nslookup smtp.vodacom.co.za
Server:  dns2-vop.3g.vodacom.co.za
Address:  196.207.32.69

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    smtp.vodacom.co.za
Address:  196.11.146.148


C:\Documents and Settings\Leon.CCSM>
nslookup www.google.com
Server:  dns2-vop.3g.vodacom.co.za
Address:  196.207.32.69

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.l.google.com
Addresses:  64.233.183.104, 64.233.183.147, 64.233.183.99, 64.233.183.103
Aliases:  www.google.com


C:\Documents and Settings\Leon.CCSM>
nslookup www.yahoo.com
Server:  dns2-vop.3g.vodacom.co.za
Address:  196.207.32.69

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net
Address:  87.248.113.14
Aliases:  www.yahoo.com


C:\Documents and Settings\Leon.CCSM>
nslookup www.microsoft.com
Server:  dns2-vop.3g.vodacom.co.za
Address:  196.207.32.69

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
Addresses:  207.46.193.254, 207.46.19.190, 207.46.19.254, 207.46.192.254
Aliases:  www.microsoft.com, toggle.www.ms.akadns.net
          g.www.ms.akadns.net


C:\Documents and Settings\Leon.CCSM>



:cool:
 

Csnoopy

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We previously got a set of alternate DNS servers to use here. Probably needs ic's clairvoyant searching powers to find it....;)

Maybe switch the DNS servers and see if it makes a difference.

How and where would we do this.

As per link from ic.


OPENDNS
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220


:cool:
 

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V3G, I seem to be getting less timeouts now with the alternate DNS settings. Its just a hell of a lot slower with these (I mean compared to when it resolves on VC's defaults).
 

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Data "service", huh what service?

Service is really pathetic here today:sick: I was trying to have a converstion with a friend from Europe when suddenly I'm only getting one way traffic [up] from the graphs on Netmeter and I had been wondering why my friend hadn't replied for a few minutes. Then when I disconnected and tried to reconnect it comes up with 619 errors and after a couple of tries did connect but still still no downloads coming through. Then I had to switch to GPRS which connected but also went impotent after a few minutes:mad: This was really embarassing for me as my friend must think I'm some kind of cheap-skate thats uses a pathetic ISP:eek:

I'm getting intermitant "Internet Explorer could not display the webpage" and "Server not found" and "Connect was reset" [Firefox] errors messages and in Opera I have to keep refreshing to get the page to load.

We all complain about Telkom's high prices but you can't deny the fact that ADSL is way more reliable than any other data service provided in this country. At work, in +/- 2 years our ADSL have been down a total of 3 days spanning two seperate incidents. With ADSL prices coming down, I'm sure a lot of people will be thinking about switching.

The USSD balance and data purchase options were down for most of the day, but I eventually did manage to buy a PPDB via the sms system. The first 2 weeks on my first PPDB were excellent and after that things just got worse and worse. I hope I don't regret buying this second bundle as I'm unimpressed with the service or more correctly the lack therof:(
 

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Service is really pathetic here today:sick: I was trying to have a converstion with a friend from Europe when suddenly I'm only getting one way traffic [up] from the graphs on Netmeter and I had been wondering why my friend hadn't replied for a few minutes. Then when I disconnected and tried to reconnect it comes up with 619 errors and after a couple of tries did connect but still still no downloads coming through. Then I had to switch to GPRS which connected but also went impotent after a few minutes:mad: This was really embarassing for me as my friend must think I'm some kind of cheap-skate thats uses a pathetic ISP:eek:

I'm getting intermitant "Internet Explorer could not display the webpage" and "Server not found" and "Connect was reset" [Firefox] errors messages and in Opera I have to keep refreshing to get the page to load.

We all complain about Telkom's high prices but you can't deny the fact that ADSL is way more reliable than any other data service provided in this country. At work, in +/- 2 years our ADSL have been down a total of 3 days spanning two seperate incidents. With ADSL prices coming down, I'm sure a lot of people will be thinking about switching.

The USSD balance and data purchase options were down for most of the day, but I eventually did manage to buy a PPDB via the sms system. The first 2 weeks on my first PPDB were excellent and after that things just got worse and worse. I hope I don't regret buying this second bundle as I'm unimpressed with the service or more correctly the lack therof:(
I am also on PPDB.
I second what you say. I must also say that I have been running with no hickups at all today. I have also been using InternetVPN as my APN and it appears to be more stable. I am currently on Internet APN.

I have just seen that MTN's pricing is the same as Vodacom's ????? :p

I better not say to much otherwise I get "klapped" again.
 

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Find the Windoze connection that your dashboard uses, edit its TCP/IP properties, look for the DNS tab, fill in the DNS IP addresses...

OK. That is what I did. If I use the dialer directly they stay but as soon as I use the dashboard to call the dialer they default to auto dns. Strange but true. :eek:

Thanks ic.
 

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Yeah, it's been nasty all day when browsing.... WoW pings aer okayish tho.
 

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Ppdb

:confused::confused:
What's up no complaints?? Have Vodacom got it right?, or has everybody gone and bought MTN PPDB.

This whole fiasco, for me from thursday, has cost me 112MB:( with all the pings and speed tests. The one that really chowed by 500MB bundle was

speedtest.net it takes +- 10Meg for a test down/up. I did 2 tests this morning after 12h00 & lost 21 odd MB. I am using Magitme 6 which has a splash screen that you can set to give you warnings on certain activities.

Where can I put my data claim in for data lost due to bad service & testing assistance? I did say I was willing to do some tests, but not at this kind of data value.

It's OK for guys with company sim's to run these speedtest but Eish for me eina.

I see some guy has removed his signature to reduce bandwith usage. :)
 

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What's up no complaints?? Have Vodacom got it right?, or has everybody gone and bought MTN PPDB.

This whole fiasco, for me from thursday, has cost me 112MB:( with all the pings and speed tests. The one that really chowed by 500MB bundle was

speedtest.net it takes +- 10Meg for a test down/up. I did 2 tests this morning after 12h00 & lost 21 odd MB. I am using Magitme 6 which has a splash screen that you can set to give you warnings on certain activities.

Where can I put my data claim in for data lost due to bad service & testing assistance? I did say I was willing to do some tests, but not at this kind of data value.

It's OK for guys with company sim's to run these speedtest but Eish for me eina.

I see some guy has removed his signature to reduce bandwith usage. :)

What really gets to me is the fact that they wont commit to a date on completion of the fixes. This could potentially go on for months. I just hope Telkom comes and installs my damn ADSL when they supposed to.
 
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What really gets to me is the fact that they wont commit to a date on completion of the fixes. This could potentially go on for months. I just hope Telkom comes and installes my damn ADSL when they supposed to.

This is the part that really gets me. They can tell you which days by date are planned for upgrades for 1 hour or 6 hour 2 days sorry we can't tell you. Eureka. I got it. All thousands of us have become Vodacoms Beta testers. They can now use us to put a loud on there new systems to see if it will hold. For a Gig or 5 I will gladly do it. I insist that I/we be credited with a Data bundle. How else will they be able to do load tests? Of course they are doing it at OUR expense. Hence the R6bn profit they made.:D :D
 

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This is the part that really gets me. They can tell you which days by date are planned for upgrades for 1 hour or 6 hour 2 days sorry we can't tell you. Eureka. I got it. All thousands of us have become Vodacoms Beta testers. They can now use us to put a loud on there new systems to see if it will hold. For a Gig or 5 I will gladly do it. I insist that I/we be credited with a Data bundle. How else will they be able to do load tests? Of course they are doing it at OUR expense. Hence the R6bn profit they made.:D :D

I'm angry enough to go park my car on the manager's desk! :mad:
 

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:confused::confused:
What's up no complaints?? Have Vodacom got it right?, or has everybody gone and bought MTN PPDB.

This whole fiasco, for me from thursday, has cost me 112MB:( with all the pings and speed tests. The one that really chowed by 500MB bundle was

speedtest.net it takes +- 10Meg for a test down/up. I did 2 tests this morning after 12h00 & lost 21 odd MB. I am using Magitme 6 which has a splash screen that you can set to give you warnings on certain activities.

Where can I put my data claim in for data lost due to bad service & testing assistance? I did say I was willing to do some tests, but not at this kind of data value.

It's OK for guys with company sim's to run these speedtest but Eish for me eina.

I see some guy has removed his signature to reduce bandwith usage. :)

10MB per test, 21MB for 2 tests?

How long does the test run and what are you results? A file that size will take minutes to download.....:rolleyes: and no-one will do such a test....

Get a stopwatch and a calculator and work out how big the file is, if you don't want to believe your HMP.

According to HMP speedtest.net used 1.3MB for the download test and 363KB for the upload.

Maybe find that virus/malware/trojan/updates that's eating your data. It's probably causing your poor response as well.
 

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What really gets to me is the fact that they wont commit to a date on completion of the fixes. This could potentially go on for months. I just hope Telkom comes and installs my damn ADSL when they supposed to.

zerofocus, as I've posted before, it's very sensitive to make changes to the network infrastructure as the network is obviously live at all times and must maintain a 100% availability. Together with this there are many, many elements that are upgraded or need some maintenance at some point. To try and reduce any possible impact on the user base, these changes must be scheduled to be done in the early hours and there often is just not enough time to get everything scheduled.

You must see the internal fights to get maintenance slots! All the different engineering and operations departments need to do work and you can only do so much in a day (or rather in the wee hours of the morning).

On top of this, if 'new' technology is rolled out, it will be rolled out slowly, i.e. the first system will go in and then will be monitored for any instability and only then will a roll-out start for the rest of the country.

This is all standard IT support and maintenance stuff, the only difference is the very large size of the network (with millions of elements), while the amount of hours the network can be worked on is fixed. So the cycles are much longer compared to a corporate IT network, for example.

So to answer your question, I don't like to commit to fixed roll-out plans because they can (and do) change, based on priority. For example when we saw the two main problems being discussed here (slow international throughput and pre-paid disconnects), they jumped to the top of the list and both have been addressed as emergency fixes.

I'm battling to get an understanding on the latest posts on '3G' problems. The posts basically read 3G is not working but those who posted latency and throughputs are getting good results.

WEB pages not loading, timeing, having to be refreshed, etc. seems to be the common symptoms.

Thus my suspicion that it could be DNS related.

Do me a favour; when posting any problem, try and give a more clear description and then also do a 'ipconfig /all' and just post your IP and the DNS servers you're assigned. Let's see if we can pick up a common thread (pardon the pun).
 
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