Weight loss

[OMB]

Serious?????
I usually limit myself to 2 squares.
A whole frikken bar:wtf:
I feel like when a stripper says no charge

so long as it's the Lindt 90%, minimal sugar content and full of all sorts of good stuff, good fats included

 

[RanzB]

Hi folks, I see abstaining from carbs seems to be the method of choice for losing weight here. I have found this article which indicates grave consequences of a carbohydrates-free diet.


http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

A lot of people on low carb diets aren't necessarily on high protein diets. Also, more and more studies are coming out saying that previous studies are flawed, and some conclusions outright wrong.

Aug. 2, 2010 -- Low-carbohydrate weight loss diets have an edge over low-fat diets for improving HDL cholesterol levels long term, according to a study funded by the National Institutes of Health.

Dieters who followed low-carb or low-fat plans for two years along with a lifestyle modification program lost the same amount of weight -- on average about 7% of their body weight or 15 pounds.

But throughout the two-year study, low-carbohydrate dieters had significantly increased HDL, or "good," cholesterol levels compared to low-fat dieters.

So if something as long-regarded as 'fat/protein causes high (bad, I'm assuming) cholesterol levels' is turning out to maybe be wrong, what else could they have missed?

Lastly, I doubt anyone is on a carb-free diet. It's called low-carb for a reason.

 

[Redeemed]

That article is full of non-scientific myth and is easily debunked

I hope you are correct because otherwise people might find themselves with health issues from which they may never recover, ever.

 

[OMB]

I hope you are correct because otherwise people might find themselves with health issues from which they may never recover, ever.

the scientific evidence is becoming more and more mainstream, bad science is what has landed us with the obesity crisis that the world currently finds itself in. I was very sceptical about this stuff when I first started researching it nearly 2 years ago, but the more I've researched the more I've come to realise how much bad science and personal agendas have influenced everything we take for granted about nutrition

 

[Sinbad]

I hope you are correct because otherwise people might find themselves with health issues from which they may never recover, ever.

People are already finding themselves with massive health issues due to the food pyramid propaganda lies and the obsession with low fat

 

[Redeemed]

Lastly, I doubt anyone is on a carb-free diet. It's called low-carb for a reason.

Yes, sorry. The article is in fact warning against low-carb diets not carb-free diets.

 

[RanzB]

Yes, sorry. The article is in fact warning against low-carb diets not carb-free diets.

You'll notice my link comes from the same site yours does. Maybe this points to the fact that the medical community is beginning to change its mind?

 

[OMB]

here's an indication of the impact of what I mentioned

Nutritionists of the era assumed that all-meat diets were unhealthy because (1) excessive meat consumption was alleged to raise blood pressure and cause gout; (2) the monotony of eating only meat—or any other single food—was said to induce a physical sense of revulsion; (3) the absence of fresh fruit and vegetables in these diets would cause scurvy and other deficiency diseases, and (4) protein-rich diets were thought to induce chronic kidney damage, a belief based largely on early research by Louis Newburgh.

None of these claims were based on compelling evidence. Newburgh, for instance, had based his conclusions largely on experiments in which he fed excessive quantities of soybean, egg whites, and beef protein to rabbits, which, as critics would later observe, happen to be herbivores. Their natural diet is buds and bark, not their fellow animals, and so there was little scientific value in force-feeding them meat or animal protein.

so the whole premise of high protein diets being bad for humans was based on research done by force feeding protein to rabbits

 

[Redeemed]

I hear you OMB, I have also done some research which confirms your view and I don't doubt that low-carb is effective when it comes to weight loss (also from personal experienced) BUT I get spooked by the devastation that other sources claim this approach can cause.

 

[Kornhub]

I hear you OMB, I have also done some research which confirms your view and I don't doubt that low-carb is effective when it comes to weight loss (also from personal experienced) BUT I get spooked by the devastation that other sources claim this approach can cause.

You still get carbs but they must come from vegetables mainly and not the startchy ones.

 

[Redeemed]

here's an indication of the impact of what I mentioned



so the whole premise of high protein diets being bad for humans was based on research done by force feeding protein to rabbits

Ridiculous if true! And begs the question why this was not debunked earlier as the West spends billions on medical research? Were all these brilliant minds fooled?

 

[RanzB]

I hear you OMB, I have also done some research which confirms your view and I don't doubt that low-carb is effective when it comes to weight loss (also from personal experienced) BUT I get spooked by the devastation that other sources claim this approach can cause.

There are many many people who have used this diet long-term.

 

[Sinbad]

Ridiculous if true! And begs the question why this was not debunked earlier as the West spends billions on medical research? Were all these brilliant minds fooled?

The brilliant minds were funded by companies pushing their own agendas. The research was swayed by this.

 

[OMB]

Ridiculous if true! And begs the question why this was not debunked earlier as the West spends billions on medical research? Were all these brilliant minds fooled?

oh, it's fascinating stuff when you really get into it

the whole field of human nutrition is full of personal agendas, bad science, ignoration of facts, political and industrial influence and interference and other FUD, it's all pretty bizarre

 

[Sinbad]

Think about how humankind evolved. Before mass agriculture, rapid transport and refrigeration, what foods were available all year round? We evolved to live on those

 

[Necuno]

Weight loss made easy:

1) eating plan
2) exercise

hardcore yo!

 

[OMB]

Weight loss made easy:

1) eating plan
2) exercise

hardcore yo!

oh, go away

 

[Kornhub]

Low carb is safe man(though I think it could be different if you have medical issues).

Interesting - http://www.mh.co.za/nutrition/healthy-eating-tips/the-tim-noakes-diet

 

[Redeemed]

Low carb is safe man(though I think it could be different if you have medical issues).

Interesting - http://www.mh.co.za/nutrition/healthy-eating-tips/the-tim-noakes-diet

Yeah, I heard Dr Noakes stirred (again) and he is almost a persona-non grata in the South African medical fraternity as a result. The doyens frown upon his approach.

 

[Sinbad]

Yeah, I heard Dr Noakes stirred (again) and he is almost a persona-non grata in the South African medical fraternity. The doyens frown upon his approach.

Yup they have huge egos and admitting you've been wrong all along is a big ask. Not to mention possible liability for all the times you have ****ed up a patient's life by punting low fat crap.

HUGE respect to Tim Noakes.