We'll mock Jesus, but not Mohammad - BBC

Ekstasis said:
Exactly that! If someone is a real Christian, saved by the grace of Christ, he or she will not want to hurt and kill people in the name of religion.
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But how do you know what a real Christian is? What gives you the right to determine that?

Some real Christians believe it is their duty to oppose homosexuality and murder abortion doctors. If you told them you disagree on either point, they would think that YOU are not a real Christian and not saved. You see, they have a different definition of Christianity to yours, but theirs is no less valid for being different.

How do you reconcile that? You cant, quite simply. You have to accept that some people who identify as real Christians are blood thirsty, judgmental and violent. Its the truth of the matter.
 
copacetic said:
You've missed my point, which is that every religious person believes they have it right.

And each and every one of them are mind bogglingly arrogant in thinking that they are correct to the exclusion of anyone who doesn't follow their particular holy text in the same manner they do.

And I'm the one often accused of arrogance, simply because I point out there's no evidence for any of it...

Absurd.
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What does this have to do with the notion that all Christians are violent monsters?? You amaze me to sometimes :p
 
The are .. its just that they gave up burnings at the stake and live lion lunches a few centuries ago.
 
Ekstasis said:
So Christians are not generally violent people?
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I'll answer some of your questions when and if you actually respond to my statements as a whole, rather than almost purposefully appearing to misunderstand them, and glean the most mean spirited generalizations out of them that you can attribute to me.

In any event, I think I've been pretty clear in my viewpoints, I'm honestly not sure how you manage often extract the worst possible interpretation of anything I say, and usually completely incorrect as well. Most other people seem to understand what I'm trying to get at, what is going on here?
 
Copa, either you're saying people who are religious are violent because of their religion or you don't agree with that notion. Which is it?
 
Ekstasis said:
Copa, either you're saying people who are religious are violent because of their religion or you don't agree with that notion. Which is it?
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Refer to post above yours, I'm tired of trying to communicate with people who only draw little bits of my statements to nibble away at, while I am actually attempting to have some sort of holistic conversation, sorry.
 
copacetic said:
Refer to post above yours, I'm tired of trying to communicate with people who only draw little bits of my statements to nibble away at, while I am actually attempting to have some sort of holistic conversation, sorry.
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You're never wrong Copa. That must be a great feeling. The day you manage to see that people differ, even within the same religions, then maybe you'll get the picture.
 
Ekstasis said:
You're never wrong Copa. That must be a great feeling. The day you manage to see that people differ, even within the same religions, then maybe you'll get the picture.
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What a load of festering ****.

You are the one who is insisting anyone whose views are different to your own are wrong, not me, FFS.

I cannot actually believe you manage to misunderstand and/or misrepresent me as badly as you do. Try read through our conversation again, because holy crap are you missing the ball on this one somehow...

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I am sorry man, I am getting very frustrated because you are REALLY not seeming to understand me, and I have really tried to be clear this whole time, and you ****ing ignore massive bits of my posts and them obsess about ridiculous things I didn't even say in the first place.
 
copa, you are wasting your time dude, you can't reason with the likes of Estasis as they are simply not capable of reasoning.

/goes off to listen to ABBA songs...
 
ponder said:
copa, you are wasting your time dude, you can't reason with the likes of Estasis as they are simply not capable of reasoning.

/goes off to listen to ABBA songs...
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let me go ponder on your point.

man that never gets stale
mwahahahahahaha

can any1 summarise whats going on..
If I can guess without wading through a zillion pages, copacetic is making points and ekstasis has his fingers in his ears going "lalalalalalalalalalalala"??
 
za1 said:
can any1 summarise whats going on..
If I can guess without wading through a zillion pages, copacetic is making points and ekstasis has his fingers in his ears going "lalalalalalalalalalalala"??
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That's a pretty good summary :D
 
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Mineer said:
I will admit a tear ran down my cheek while reading the article and comments that follow. As a Muslim an insult to both Jesus may peace be upon him and Muhammad may peace be upon him is a double insult. Further admit that my patients is tested but I will not give in I strengthen my resolve and look for peaceful resolutions, I do believe in a system that advocates an eye for an eye but it is better for you to forgive those you do you wrong. So I will bare patiently with what you say have a great day, peace:)
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+ 1 ! I feel just about the same. I will never understand why anyone would want to make fun of something that is sacred to another. Its just not right.
 
sparticus said:
+ 1 ! I feel just about the same. I will never understand why anyone would want to make fun of something that is sacred to another. Its just not right.
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I'll never understand why somebody would want to MURDER someone for making fun of them or their religion.
 
sparticus said:
+ 1 ! I feel just about the same. I will never understand why anyone would want to make fun of something that is sacred to another. Its just not right.
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Imagine being told over and over that you will burn in hell for not accepting the fantasy. Do you feel that's right?

If people don't want to see their religion on the limelight then practice it privately and stop passing myths as factual events. Do that and maybe others will stop poking fun at religion.
 
agerbon said:
Imagine being told over and over that you will burn in hell for not accepting the fantasy. Do you feel that's right?

If people don't want to see their religion on the limelight then practice it privately and stop passing myths as factual events. Do that and maybe others will stop poking fun at religion.
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I strongly doubt that.
BTW, it's my job to tell people they will burn in hell if they do not accept Jesus Christ. It's part of the package.

If someone talks to you about this and you're not interested, then kindly tell this person not to bother...you're not interested. Then, after that, move on.
 
Ekstasis said:
BTW, it's my job to tell people they will burn in hell if they do not accept Jesus Christ. It's part of the package.

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bwahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

this is the funniest schit I have read in ages.
Hope you also have an awesome day cause you've made mine.
 
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