What car to get?

Rouxenator said:
So how long do you plan to keep a car for? Do you ever own a car that is completely paid up?
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I keep the car for as long as it's not a problem. Which may be 5 years, it may be 10 years.
All my cars so far has been paid up between 2-4 years.
 
Good, the longer you keep it the less significant the value difference will be with other cars in the same segment. So buy a car that you enjoy having and won't get bored of soon.
 
Rouxenator said:
Good, the longer you keep it the less significant the value difference will be with other cars in the same segment. So buy a car that you enjoy having and won't get bored of soon.
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How do you get bored of a car? I find this strange as it's the last thing I've ever thought of being bored about.
 
Rouxenator said:
I keep my cars for a decade or more, after that all cars in the segment have values that are within a few thousand of each other. So in other words it's pretty useless to worry about resale value when you could be enjoying a car for what it should be.
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Do you keep your bicycle for more than a decade?
 
PostmanPot said:
Ok, so you won't buy a new one for more than a decade?
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I don't see the need to. My road bike is a 2002 model and it works fine with most of the original components still in tact. My MTBs was stolen last January so the one I have now is 14 months old, well some of it anyway, got a new frame in January after the old one cracked. But as far as forking out money for a new on I see no need.
 
Rouxenator said:
I don't see the need to. My road bike is a 2002 model and it works fine with most of the original components still in tact. My MTBs was stolen last January so the one I have now is 14 months old, well some of it anyway, got a new frame in January after the old one cracked. But as far as forking out money for a new on I see no need.
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Cool. Would resale value be more important to you if you were upgrading more frequently? It would obviously not be compromising on quality, think of it as getting a quality ride as well as better resale value.
 
Well whatever car I get next it won't be something I'll be keeping for a long (i.e. more than 4/5 years), unless it was a Mercedes...then I'd definitely keep. Fact is, that this car will be another stop gap until I find myself in a better financial position to get the Mercedes I want. So resell value matters to me.

I undoubtly like the Volvo, but the voice of reasoning tells me I should move on and look at something else.
 
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PostmanPot said:
Cool. Would resale value be more important to you if you were upgrading more frequently?
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If you upgrade more frequently then yes, you have fallen into a trap where you can only buy cars that have a high resale value. If you don't care for upgrading and just want to get the most and longest possible enjoyment out of your transportation then resale is not really a problem.

Usually with bikes you will probably crack the frame, have it rebuilt under warranty and then sell it with new frame and buy something else.
 
Rouxenator said:
If you upgrade more frequently then yes, you have fallen into a trap where you can only buy cars that have a high resale value. If you don't care for upgrading and just want to get the most and longest possible enjoyment out of your transportation then resale is not really a problem.
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It's a problem when choosing between most and longest enjoyment with resale value, vs just most and longest enjoyment without resale value.

VAG provides the former which is why your argument falls short.
 
PostmanPot said:
VAG provides the former which is why your argument falls short.
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Unfortunately for me, and many others, VAG does not provide any significant reasons to own one. There are more affordable, more dependable, better equipped and stronger resale value cars. Not to mention looks and styling that are more exciting and age better.

For the mainstream masses I guess VAG does cover most those areas in an acceptably average manner.
 
Rouxenator said:
Unfortunately for me, and many others, VAG does not provide any significant reasons to own one. There are more affordable, more dependable, better equipped and stronger resale value cars. Not to mention looks and styling that are more exciting and age better.

For the mainstream masses I guess VAG does cover most those areas in an acceptably average manner.
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Hogwash.
 
PostmanPot said:
Hogwash.
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I don't think you can simply cast other people's taste and style preference for cars aside as hogwash. If you do then people owning Alfas might get emotional, those with Citroens might feel sad and those who drive a Volvo might think you're a hooligan ;)

Both Mercedes and BMW have cars that are more desirable than VAGs, and they last longer while looking better and ageing more gracefully. Toyota makes cars that are much more reliable in the long run. Hyundai offers better warranty and value for money. Those are but a few of many options out there, if you dare to think outside the box that is.
 
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