WHich is best? PLASMA vs. LCD vs. LED

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reactor_sa said:
Oh my hat, after seeing a D6000 I want that! But R7500 for a 32"..... :/
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I just looked at that D6000 at DionWired/HiFi C. What a great piece of equipment. Yet with the LG LW4500 3D series going for R8000.00/40" and R11000.00/47" its a hard decision to make there is just no match at that price point.
 
My eyes are taking strain, taking the 32D550 back today, using my old LG W2252TQ 22" since I sold my Samsung S27A550 on sunday. I'm not sure what to get anymore, the TN pc monitors have very very bad vertical viewing, and the S-PVA 32D550 had washout on the sides, with slight ghosting (my 46D550 doesnt have that washout though?), and the LG S-IPS 32V3530 I returned on monday had the most ridiculous ghosting and input lag (after much thought, I'm not even sure if it was actuallly an S-IPS panel).
The option to go for is probably the Dell UltraSharp U3011 but at R10 000+ est. its a bit expensive.
Whats left? What would be the best? Maybe the 32D550 I got was just a lemon? Geez I'm tired of hunting for a good display for my pc.... :/


Anyone know where I can find a Panasonic THL32U30R? Can only find the THL32U20R which is last years LCD instead of this years LED.
 
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Can you explain the problems?

Seems to be one of the best locally/easily available LCD TVs you can use for a PC monitor, so you'd probably have to investigate them pricey PC IPSes.
 
Well i bought a 43" jvc plasma and i have to say for movies it is pure epic. Picture is awesome, blacks are black and colours are very good.

Motion is also insane. I want to use it as a pc monitor and this is where plasma fails. Got a 46" led sammie coming next week so i will compare but plasma for movies and TV is amazing.

I saw some sammies but in all honesty the movies looked fake. Plasma these days doesn't have burn in issue, they have anti burn tech but still don't leave it on a still image for more than 15 minutes, rather just switch it off if you have to pause for something.
 
killadoob said:
Well i bought a 43" jvc plasma and i have to say for movies it is pure epic. Picture is awesome, blacks are black and colours are very good.

Motion is also insane. I want to use it as a pc monitor and this is where plasma fails. Got a 46" led sammie coming next week so i will compare but plasma for movies and TV is amazing.

I saw some sammies but in all honesty the movies looked fake. Plasma these days doesn't have burn in issue, they have anti burn tech but still don't leave it on a still image for more than 15 minutes, rather just switch it off if you have to pause for something.
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So you reckon JVC quality is ok? I know when i was growing up they were the bee's knees: premium brand. But then my impression is that, like Telefunken, they were bought out by a low-cost, cookie-cutter company that pops them out fast and cheap. AM i wrong?
 
killadoob said:
Plasma these days doesn't have burn in issue, they have anti burn tech but still don't leave it on a still image for more than 15 minutes, rather just switch it off if you have to pause for something.
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They've had these anti burn in methods (or burn in reduction) since the beginning I think ; they're nothing new.
 
15 mins is pretty low. I mean watching a movie is approx 2 hours where you have the channel logo fixed on the screen.
 
remlon said:
So you reckon JVC quality is ok? I know when i was growing up they were the bee's knees: premium brand. But then my impression is that, like Telefunken, they were bought out by a low-cost, cookie-cutter company that pops them out fast and cheap. AM i wrong?
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JVC is flippin epic i reckon, i saw a 56" inch led there as well and i was in love. JVC makes excellent monitors.

The nice thing about plasma is the blacks but led i think have that covered now. I was also a bit concerned about jvc until i saw a few. Really good. Their led is as good as samsung. The only thing i can say is the tv software and menu is fairly limited compared to samsung but my 43" plasma was 4999 and i thought that is an excellent price.

Dolby what anti burn tech have they used? My jvc for instance shifts the screen every 30 seconds, tiny amount. I don't even notice it anymore so images cannot stay static for more than 30 seconds and plasma has come along way since the first days but i will compare if can get my hands on the sammy 46" led. I can say plasma is horrible for computer use :D. Pc games look good though but text is not lekka. Also i like that the screen doesn't look odd from angles.
 
... because if you have - for example - a red logo (solid colour) 10 x 10 pixels .... and the screen shifts 3 pixels to the left, the first 7 remain lit ... then it shifts up ... and again a certain portion remains lit regardless. Once it's done the cycle - there will be pixels in the middle of the logo that haven't shifted at all.

They reduce - but they don't remove altogether. My plasma was 2007 and it had it - anbd I'd been reading about them for years. Something tells me they've been using burn in reduction for over a decade now

Here's a decade old plasma with anti burn in (shift or orbiter) :

http://hometheaterreview.com/fujitsu-pds-5002-50-inch-plasma-hdtv-reviewed/

Going even further, Fujitsu incorporates an orbiter of sorts that moves the displayed image in minute pixel increments to disallow burning the plasma panel phosphors
 
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Dude a decade old plasma, you are comparing plasma from a decade ago and 3 years ago to the plasma's of 2011.

Look you could be right but i am fairly certain a 2011 has far more tech than a decade ago or why would samsung and so on still push plasma's? For movies and stuff plasma is the superior tech and i googled plenty on the burn in issue and very few people experience it.

http://aaaateva.com/tutorials/television/plasmas-burn-in/

Well i will see hey, i am running the contrast at 40 for the moment as recommended. I play bf 3 for like 10 hours and no issues so we will see i guess.
 
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killadoob said:
Dude a decade old plasma, you are comparing plasma from a decade ago and 3 years ago to the plasma's of 2011.
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I'm not comparing?

You mentioned pixel shifting and the general thought is that these burn in reduction methods are new. All I'm saying is they've been incorporated since the beginning - 13 years or so?

I reckon the reason they're being mention so often now (as opposed to a few years back) is that the burn in/retention issue was quite large and they now need to 'market' that they've available
 
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... because if you have - for example - a red logo (solid colour) 10 x 10 pixels .... and the screen shifts 3 pixels to the left, the first 7 remain lit ... then it shifts up ... and again a certain portion remains lit regardless. Once it's done the cycle - there will be pixels in the middle of the logo that haven't shifted at all.

They reduce - but they don't remove altogether. My plasma was 2007 and it had it - anbd I'd been reading about them for years. Something tells me they've been using burn in reduction for over a decade now

Here's a decade old plasma with anti burn in (shift or orbiter) :

http://hometheaterreview.com/fujitsu-pds-5002-50-inch-plasma-hdtv-reviewed/

Going even further, Fujitsu incorporates an orbiter of sorts that moves the displayed image in minute pixel increments to disallow burning the plasma panel phosphors
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You got some image retention. Not burn in. I take it the ordeal left you so traumatised that you still have to harp on about it 5 years later like people need to worry.

LET THOSE WITH IMAGE BURN IN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
 
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