Why should I vote the DA?

Fuma said:
As expected, I'm getting different responses. Some objective, some dismissive/defensive, and all - at least that's how they seem to me.
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Dude, I'm not trying to be mean, but you don't sound very much like you have developed a very critical mindset and a thought process that is able to look at various theoretical scenarios and decide on the best course of action. Maybe that is the ANC's education system's fault. But part of me wants to think this is exactly what the ANC has been aiming for with their terrible education system? A bunch of voters who can't think for themselves?
 
Fuma said:
First of all, I hate all politicians. I believe the are all almost the same to me.
With all the electioneering going on, I thought of creating a thread.

I believe all political parties's supporters are ambassadors to their respective parties they are affiliated with.
So I want DA supporters to convince me why I should vote for the DA

I know almost every DA supporter thinks that if you are an ANC supporter you are a fool, have an IQ of a shoe size, bla bla ...

I would like to talk about my own situation (probably represents thousands of people). I come from a small village in Limpopo where I know almost every one. We had water and electricity in 96/98. Before then, we used to fetch water from the rivers using wheelbarrows and all. Used wood to make fire to cook with. Now we hardly do that because we have those basic needs. Slept in a mud house my whole childhood. My local primary and high schools have computer labs and all that. we didn't have that before. My parents are happy with my achievements so far because they never thought their children could go to school and become something

We now have doctors, CAs, engineers, IT people, ..... where before we only had nurses, teachers, security guards (not that there is any thing wrong doing that). The people can now realize their dreams, like building their parents nice houses, buy nice cars and take their kids and sibling to better schools.
There are lots of villages that are experiencing the same thing. I tell you in the next 20 years or so, some of the villages will not be recognizable because of the developments that are going on.

I'm aware of the current situation with crime, health, education, corruption, etc....
I know that the infrastructure in some areas (that some people used to enjoy) might have gone to the dogs, but say that to someone who didn't have any of that infrastructure before.

I will edit my post as I think of something, but I hope it came out clear.
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So your village and the people you know get better value for money in the form of better services. So that other villages not connected to the grid (and there are massive areas of this country still unlit), can get the same opportunities your village had.

You will get better value for money from a less corrupt party.
 
I don't care who anybody votes for. But all I know and believe in, is that you should vote. It's your duty to have a say in who (attempts to) runs the country. It's your way of saying that you believe that the political system is worth your vote and you wish to take part in that.

This is so that when you do have a rant in future, be it for who you voted for, or not, you can complain as a voting citizen of this country.

If you don't vote, don't complain. Simple. :D
 
Garyvdh said:
Dude, I'm not trying to be mean, but you don't sound very much like you have developed a very critical mindset and a thought process that is able to look at various theoretical scenarios and decide on the best course of action. Maybe that is the ANC's education system's fault. But part of me wants to think this is exactly what the ANC has been aiming for with their terrible education system? A bunch of voters who can't think for themselves?
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I'm not sure if you in particular did answer my question as why I should for the DA. I think you should read the opening post again.
 
Fuma said:
As expected, I'm getting different responses. Some objective, some dismissive/defensive, and all - at least that's how they seem to me.
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So will that be all you going to say... What about responding to certain posts which you feel you can add or dismiss so that we here can get an idea what it is you looking for.
 
Over-Dose said:
I don't care who anybody votes for. But all I know and believe in, is that you should vote. It's your duty to have a say in who (attempts to) runs the country. It's your way of saying that you believe that the political system is worth your vote and you wish to take part in that.

This is so that when you do have a rant in future, be it for who you voted for, or not, you can complain as a voting citizen of this country.

If you don't vote, don't complain. Simple. :D
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What I am picking up from this thread is that most people voting for the DA have absolutely no allegiance to them. If they fsuk up we take our vote somewhere else. This is how a democracy should work. ANC supporters on the other hand seem to feel they owe it to the ANC to vote for them even if they fsuk up.

Remember that it was not only ANC "comrades" who fought against apartheid. The DA has it's roots on the PFP and PP. The PFP was one of the parties who actively opposed apartheid. Names of leaders of the party included Helen Suzman, Zach de Beer, Frederik van Zyl Slabbert and Harry Schwarz.
 
Fuma said:
I'm not sure if you in particular did answer my question as why I should for the DA. I think you should read the opening post again.
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Odracir said:
So will that be all you going to say... What about responding to certain posts which you feel you can add or dismiss so that we here can get an idea what it is you looking for.
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I'm not sure it's going to make any difference.

I think we are being trolled here Gentlemen. :rolleyes:
 
ClintZA said:
What I am picking up from this thread is that most people voting for the DA have absolutely no allegiance to them. If they fsuk up we take our vote somewhere else. This is how a democracy should work. ANC supporters on the other hand seem to feel they owe it to the ANC to vote for them even if they fsuk up.

Remember that it was not only ANC "comrades" who fought against apartheid. The DA has it's roots on the PFP and PP. The PFP was one of the parties who actively opposed apartheid. Names of leaders of the party included Helen Suzman, Zach de Beer, Frederik van Zyl Slabbert and Harry Schwarz.
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Except Cool E, who else is an ANC supporter who posted on this thread?
Do you think the ANC did any good to this country?
 
I forgot to add, people are too scared to question or criticize the ANC. That in itself is a damning & scary message. As someone else posted earlier, the Government work for the people, they must be accountable, transparent and answer to the people, which the ANC is none. In any modern Democratic society, if there is a whiff of corruption / scandal, the responsible people are expected to do what is correct & step down so as not to tarnish the greater good of a party.
 
one good reason
Millions of people live in shacks, but more than R200 million has been spent on President Jacob Zuma’s Nkandla residence.

Jack Bloom, the DA’s Leader in the Gauteng Provincial Legislature, visits informal settlements once a month and stays the night in a shack in order to experience and highlight their problems so they get the attention they deserve.

These visits are popularly known as “Jack in a Shack”.

Follow Jack on twitter @JackBloomDA on his seventeenth visit on Tuesday 29 January when he visits Winnie Mandela informal settlement and neighbouring settlements in Tembisa on the east rand.

Also visit the “Don’t Forget the Forgotten” Facebook page that chronicles all Jack’s shack visits, and also follow the DA in Gauteng on twitter @DA_GPL
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Fuma said:
As expected, I'm getting different responses. Some objective, some dismissive/defensive, and all - at least that's how they seem to me.
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I see where you are coming from. The ANC is going to make alot of mistakes but again there are plenty of people in the ANC who care about the plight of the poor. There are also plenty of people in the ANC who want to line their pockets.

Equally, the same goes for the DA. There has been corruption in the DA in the past but they have not ruled as the ruling party yet. And when/if they do I reckon there will be just as much corruption with the DA as with the ANC.

So the ANC supporter, on the ground, probably intrinsically knows this and so will always stick with what he knows, and continue to vote ANC.
 
Fuma said:
I'm not sure if you in particular did answer my question as why I should for the DA. I think you should read the opening post again.
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They seem to be saying vote for the DA because the DA "might" do a better job than the ANC. Which may well be true... the logic that if the ANC gets its vote support depleted to the 50%s might not work if we take the exampple of their rule in the WC. They ruled in a coalition there because they failed to win outrigh - but instead of putting in the best accountable people to showcase that they are the party to vote for, they proceeded to install useless ANC aparatchik after another in the end handing the city and then the province back to DA.

The ANC installed a coloured premier in the WC in hopes of winning the coloured vote by virtue of just showing a coloured face. They didn't provide better services to coloured people.
 
ave said:
Picture this- a small village in Limpopo, that has one cafe. It's the only shop, so they can charge what they like. Bread sells for R20 a loaf. Because it's close, people end up going there and paying the ridiculous prices because its that, or shlep to the city which will cost more in taxi fairs anyway. Now a zimbabwean comes in and opens a shop, selling bread at R10 a loaf instead. Its called competition, and when people start going to his shop instead, the first is going to be forced to drop his prices in order to stay competitive. So he then comes up with a special- load of bread and a litre of milk for R13. Suddenly the villagers are spoiled for choice.
That's the nature of competition, and why it is so important. Vote DA, or Vote IFP or COPE, it doesn't matter, just so long as you don't give one party a majority.
What's happening at the moment is that the ANC is like that first shop, knowing they can do whatever they want, and people will still support them. what we need now is some serious competition, if for nothing else than to shake them up a little and force them to do even better. Which brings me to my next point:

Don't look at where you are, look at where you could be. Yes the ANC has done a **** load, but they have probably done a fraction of what they could be doing, because of the corruption, wasteful expenditure and siphoning of funds. You say in 20 years things could be different, but why wait 20 years for something that could happen in 5?
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This.

Ry4n said:
What I don’t understand OP is do you think the ANC are the only party that could have done all that - just because that NATS provided substandard service doesn’t mean the ANC are the only capable party? I’m sure many other political parties could have done a much better job with the same resources and time - wouldn't you agree?
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And of course this.
 
be.plato said:
I see where you are coming from. The ANC is going to make alot of mistakes but again there are plenty of people in the ANC who care about the plight of the poor. There are also plenty of people in the ANC who want to line their pockets.

Equally, the same goes for the DA. There has been corruption in the DA in the past but they have not ruled as the ruling party yet. And when/if they do I reckon there will be just as much corruption with the DA as with the ANC.

So the ANC supporter, on the ground, probably intrinsically knows this and so will always stick with what he knows, and continue to vote ANC.
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I'd stake a fair whack on the fact that I do not think Helen Zille would EVER be found to have had R250 million rand renovations done on the compound for her and her endless husbands, multitude of kids and thousands of grand children.
 
Fuma said:
I will try to respond to all of them if that will make any difference.
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Responding for the sake of it won't be good but responding to the ones where you can shed some light on the subject would be much better.
 
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