Windows 8 may make Microsoft cool again

Arthur said:
Of course.
Lots of excitement, though, even though it's early early days - Dev-Monkeyman Ballmer said "Windows 8 still has a very long way to go".

The problem with releasing stuff this early is that end-user get hold of it and start moaning about all the things that don't work - they don't understand it's not even feature-complete, or that many elements are not yet baked into the early builds.
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I get that, but my pains is not with half baked features, its with known plans. Removing the Windows Start Bar and replacing it with the Start Metro Page. Also things like pressing (Windows Meta) + (F) takes you to the Metro find screen instead of the default find in the desktop. From what I am reading on Windows Build this is the plan, hopefully enough developers complain so the amend the plan.

Oh and I have Windows 8 Now on my Asus Eee Pad..... The metro UI is a whole different experience when you run it as touch. I would even buy the current build on a tablet if they sold it.

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Yes I know its on top of Honeycomb, but I still have the touch experience working.....
 
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Basjohn said:
Absolutely loath that the new default is Tablet orientated on a long running DESKTOP OS. I've worked with every windows version to date, and I've never been so disappointed with the direction MS is taking. I'd rather use 3.1 than the Metro UI on a desktop.
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If you watched any of the videos from the build event you would know that the MetroUI is a choice you make between Classic interface or Metro interface. This choice can be changed at any time, Microsoft should communicate this better so that amateur computer users understand the choices.
 
SaladCharger said:
Took a minute or two to load up then silverlight crashed so I won't be bothering lol. MS and their flavour of the internet leaves a bad taste in my mouth more often than not. I certainly aint going to reload in IE. I avoid IE like the plague. You can't call me a basher and a troll cos I'm not commenting on the video that I wasn't able to see :D

I shudder to think that they're trying to play cloud-cloud, I can't wait for the day that they realise they lost the internet dominance war long ago. If only they paid Adobe some sort of license fee to use their tech for their web UIs and created their own cloud apps based on something that adheres to standards, even flex.
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Apple iCloud services run on Windows Azure
 
Gladiator said:
If you watched any of the videos from the build event you would know that the MetroUI is a choice you make between Classic interface or Metro interface. This choice can be changed at any time, Microsoft should communicate this better so that amateur computer users understand the choices.
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^^ This - I can't see myself getting used to Metro apps for my daily work. I usually have 100 windows sprawled across multiple monitors, although for tablet use I think Metro would be cool.
 
Apparently the internal MSFT position regarding Metro-style UI and Win8 in the enterprise is basically that Win7 and Win8 are the same - if you don't want Metro just turn it off and everything looks pretty much like Win7, and that's that. Watch Paul Thurrott's Just Tech podcast at 32'45" onwards, where he discusses this issue. "It's a no-training type situation".

Paul also has an inside line that says Windows Phone 8 will in fact be just Windows 8.
 
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Arthur said:
Apparently the internal MSFT position regarding Metro-style UI and Win8 in the enterprise is basically that Win7 and Win8 are the same - if you don't want Metro just turn it off and everything looks pretty much like Win7, and that's that. Watch Paul Thurrott's Just Tech podcast at 32'45" onwards, where he discusses this issue. "It's a no-training type situation".

Paul also has an inside line that says Windows Phone 8 will in fact be just Windows 8.
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Thank you, I take back my statements then.

If you can completely turn off and never see Metro, ever as mentioned in the vid, then Windows 8 has my full backing and I feel sorry for Linux on the desktop as well as all Tablet OS's out there.

This seriously going to kick ass in regards to speed and on tablet in usability.
 
Mike Smit said:
No need to dude. Get your notebook setup just as you like it, then system image it. When time comes for a reload, restore the system image. Saves a tremendous amount of time.

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What software do you recommend to make a system image? I think I need to start using this method to save some time.
 
Elimentals said:
They did, even the HTML5 they use on Metro you can not reuse on other platforms, even worse the XAML that Metro use can not be copied onto their own phones.

I LOLed just now at this pic: http://i.imgur.com/vd2WA.jpg

Because it feels very true... now on Day 2 of Wndows 8
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Are you sure ? In the day 2 Keynote demo they used a JSon / JScript app developed using VS11 and ran it on a iPhone. They also added 1 line of code to a Game's script code to port it from a Windows app to run on a phone. All XAML apps would run on Mango. I could be wrong but I am sure the apps developed in VS11 is very portable between different form factors, OSs and Browsers.
 
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Viva said:
What software do you recommend to make a system image? I think I need to start using this method to save some time.
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Depends on setup. Prior to Win7 I used Acronis (way better than ghost etc...). Bonus with Acronis is the Universal Restore option where the HAL is stripped from the image so you can restore on any machine.
Now I just use the Backup option in Control Panel and do a System Image backup.

As soon as your machine is setup as you like it, image it. Keep that image aside as your "new machine" image. Then once a week or month (up to you) do a latest image.

Depending on HDD size and installation size, it should be pretty fast.
My primary HDD in my notebook is a OCZ Vertex2 120GB SSD. Secondary is a Hybrid SSD/HDD.
Apps are installed on primary and data, source code and databases live on secondary. The system image is only the SSD and it completes in around15 minutes or so.
To keep my data drive safe I use www.offsitebackupsolutions.com.

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I just finished downloading the x64 without the developer tools. Trying to do a clean install, but it is giving me an error that says
sysraid4.sys missing/corrupt. Very annoying, I hope I have not just wasted 3.6Gb of cap on something that doesn't work. Anybody have a clue why this is happening?
 
hannodewind said:
I just finished downloading the x64 without the developer tools. Trying to do a clean install, but it is giving me an error that says
sysraid4.sys missing/corrupt. Very annoying, I hope I have not just wasted 3.6Gb of cap on something that doesn't work. Anybody have a clue why this is happening?
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Did you do a hash check on the downloaded file?

You trying to install on a PC or Virtual environment?
 
Elimentals said:
Did you do a hash check on the downloaded file?

You trying to install on a PC or Virtual environment?
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No, have not done a hash check, will do that.

I have tried both booting from disk as well as a Virtualbox installation, no luck...Not keen on installing directly from Windows, since it wants to replace my current 7 installation then....
 
Damn....used File Checksum Integrity Verifier check the SHA1 hash of my ISO....

I get:
ab07602cf2e525aac77be48f72eb850c8f1785b0
while the website gives:
79DBF235FD49F5C1C8F8C04E24BDE6E1D04DA1E9

Guess it was a wasted download then....
 
Mike Smit said:
This looks cool. From initial looks though it appears to be a clone utility and not backup? Can it create a file image of a HDD for restore later?
Still has its uses though and gonna have a look at it.

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Yes it can:
http://clonezilla.org/screenshots.php?op=show&filepath=./screenshots/album//00_Clonezilla/07_clonezilla-live-image-or-onthefly.png

And I've used it to copy an old 60GB hard drive that was failing to a new 750GB hard drive, while ignoring any copy errors that may happen. The cloned drive booted with no issues
 
Using a torrent to hopyfully fix the file....had the torrent client do a full check of the file, seems I need to redownload about 70MB.
 
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